+1 Trevor's thoughts about overloading Due Dates.  If you assign synthetic
due dates to tasks, David Allen predicts accurately what will happen : you
will become numb to the huge # of tasks that are "overdue" and will ignore
(or have a hard time focusing on) the few tasks that genuinely have dates
by which time they must be done.

Dan g.

On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 9:42 AM Trevor Peck <[email protected]> wrote:

> The GTD strategy only makes dates for things that won't make sense to do
> if you don't do them on their due date. So, if you don't take your flight,
> or go to your meeting, or pay your gas bill, well, then, it's not due
> anymore. You missed it. Those items need due dates. The gas bill still
> needs to be paid, of course, but now it's "pay the overdue gas bill and
> late fees". Start dates are used to hide a task when you can't work on it
> until a certain date.
>
>  Everything else just needs a priority and context. Wash the car fits
> pretty well here - if you don't do it today it will still be dirty
> tomorrow. This means you can scan your list much faster, and ensure you do
> all the things that need doing today, like the gas bill, before reviewing
> the items that are available to do today (but not due), like washing the
> car. Repeat by start date means it will stay on my list of "available"
> rather than "due", and of course upon completion  will not show up until
> it's available again. There is no need to review, nor worry about, items
> that are not due today if you don't have the time to get them done anyway.
> This doesn't account for upcoming overload, but that's handled during
> reviews (Reflect), not during action (Engage).
>
>  Anyway, that's my understanding.
>
>  Once I understood my task list that way, a large majority of my tasks fit
> this category. Most of my tasks are to check certain physical things and
> create future tasks as necessary, and most of those checks need to be
> performed frequently, but not on any particular day. The ones that do need
> doing on particular days always get my attention first, and wading through
> the lists can be cumbersome if they all have due dates.
>
>  Thank you for asking, as while writing this it occurred to me that I
> could make a text tag, like "repeat_by_start", and filter those out of my
> daily lists, adding a daily repeat task "Check Repeat by Start View" that
> includes those tasks. That probably won't even be too cumbersome, and I
> think I might do it. Maybe even today. ;-)
>
>  I also suspect that sorting by the importance algorithm has something to
> offer here (maybe low urgency will sort these correctly even if they have a
> due date), but I think it might be beyond my comprehension and ability to
> make that work for me - and even if I did figure it out, it would
> irrationally bother me to have overdue tasks. I think I programmed that
> nagging feeling into myself because I preferred it to the consequences of
> actually failing to do something important.
>
>  I have definitely found it easier to reprogram computers than me. I hear
> that might be unusual, so it's not strange if your experience is different.
>
>  - Trevor.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 2:58 AM Huw Evans <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi - I'd love to know how you're using start date for tasks.  It
>> obviously seems important to you, but I've never needed it.  The way I
>> approach tasks is very schedule focused, so I'm interested in what I need
>> or plan to do today.  So a couple of examples:
>> 1. wash car - this is a repeating task, due every 2 weeks.  So it pops up
>> in my list when due.
>> 2. pay gas bill - this is a repeating task every 3 months, again it'll
>> pop up when due.
>> 3. create dashboard report - this is a task that will take me about 2
>> weeks to complete, doing 30 min or 1 hour work chunks every 2-3 days.  So I
>> create a master task for the overall job, then sub-tasks for a work chunk.
>> I can use the next action to see the next work chunk and keep completing
>> those until just the master task remains - when hopefully it's done :)
>>   This last task is one where I could mark it as started, but I've never
>> understood what value that gives me.  Is this where you would use this
>> field?
>>
>> My next question is, why would you want a task that repeats by start
>> date, not due date.  May be answered by above.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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