Glad it worked out. btw, I see that having "project total effort" and "min time" both present in the project item can be confusing. I think that the reason for this would be that for some people, the project item itself represents effort: cleaning up, finalizing the paperwork, reviewing the result for process improvement, etc. In these cases the "min time" for the project item would represent the cost of this final effort, while "project total effort" would be the sum of the cost of every task in the project, including the project item itself.

If you want to use this, I think you should request a change to MLO to add "project total effort" to the list of fields that can be selected to appear as a column in a view.

-Dwight
On 1/28/2019 10:11 AM, Marvin Hamm wrote:

What a bizarre idea Dwight. Clunky as all get out, but it does roll up numbers up the tree. It took me a bit to realize that I had to enter the hours into a very bottom level item, not in a sub-project in order for the number to not get deleted. And, that I needed to look in the "Project" Properties tab in order to see the rolled up value, but it does work. I've never used this field before. A might too granular for my stuff.

I turned on the Time required Max column in my view. Makes the numbers 'pop' in the list and a bit easier to find once entered. It is a little disconcerting to see that sewing up a mainsail cover is going to take "300 hours", when I'm using it to mean $300. <grin>

I can set up a flat view filter that shows any item with Max Time >= 1 to see which items all have a number in them to clean them out or edit them, so that's good. That info is pretty hidden and I'm not sure I want to have that field showing all the time.

I really wish that the Max Time field for a project would show the sum for the values below it. Seems a bit odd to have that field blank for a project when there are values below it. But, I do understand that putting a result there (in a project line) beside data (bottom level line) could be confusing.

Thanks for your 'unorthodox' thinking. I appreciate it.

Marvin

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Subject: Re: Feature Request - Column that Sums
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 23:28:13 -0500
From: Dwight Arthur <[email protected]>
To: Marvin Hamm <[email protected]>


Try this:

Create a project for each boat. For every task associated with each boat, assign a dollar value and place it in min time and max time in the "effort" section of task details. If you cannot precisely identify the cost, get a range of estimates and place the lowest estimate in min time and the highest estimate in max time. Now, go to the project item for each boat and look in the project section for time required for the project, min and max. This will be the total of the effort fields of all of the subtasks for that boat. The field is designed for minutes, it will work best if you record your costs as hours, for example, if it's $5,000 you would record 5000h.

Biggest drawback, I don't know any way to make MLO show to project total effort in a view. But asking MLO to make the field selectable for display seems easier to implement than a whole new field.

If you try this, please write back and tell whether it worked for you.

-Dwight 
On 1/23/2019 1:55 PM, Marvin Hamm wrote:
I really long for a column that we can put a number value in, that would sum if certain defined conditions are met via a filter. I'm not exactly how to implement where the sum value would show up. Maybe an option as part of a right click menu? Not sure where it would sit.

My situation - I have a boat that I want to do a number of upgrades on, but I have a limited budget. If I could give $ values to the different projects, I could then turn on/off choices (Flag/text field...?) to see what that would do to the $ total. As it is, I now have to create a duplicate list in a different place to do that kind of estimating. This seems like unnecessary work. Particularly since it wouldn't be linked, just a one time export, which is out of date/sync as soon as the MLO is changed.

I'm already moving to keeping more of my note information outside of MLO and in Evernote instead, only because of the ability to add formatting and pictures. Now I need to do this estimating outside of MLO. Feels like while I have the core task listed in MLO, I keep finding reasons to do duplicate/other things with the same list of information outside of it.

Marvin

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