Hello Michel,

Thanks for posting your thoughts. Welcome to MLO and to the forum.

Here's how I deal with the three points you ask about:

*1) Project Status: *Custom filters and views are easy to set up after a 
bit of practice, constructing them by setting up Advanced Filter rules. I 
don't have to keep setting them up, though, because I find myself reusing 
the same small set of custom views I've set up for myself. These include 
various filters for excluding an active task from my view, eg because it's 
in a project which I've tagged as "not started". I can copy my custom views 
to the iOS version by emailing them to myself and sending them to the MLO3 
app on my phone.

*2) Look at the forest (task in the context of its overall project): *When 
I want to see a task in the context of its project, in the Windows version 
I can double-click on the task (not directly on the text, because that 
selects it for editing) and it shows it in the unfiltered outline view 
which I have in my first tab. I can quickly collapse all branches except 
for the one containing that selected task - I've customised the hotkey for 
that command to Ctrl-Alt-left arrow.
If I double click on the task again, in my outline (again, not directly on 
the text), it takes me back to the instance of the task in the filtered 
view I was using.

I haven't looked at the today view for a while but you're right, you can't 
apply complex or custom filters to it - just select which dates apply and 
filter by flag or context. I guess the thinking is that if a task has the 
appropriate due date or start date, then it needs to be looked at sometime 
today to be actioned or redefined.

*3) Sort subtasks*: The menu action doesn't set up an automated sort; it's 
a one-time action and it physically moves the subtasks in the outline.  If 
you want to view tasks automatically sorted in a particular order all the 
time, then you need to use the sorting and grouping options in your 
filtered views. These don't apply to a single branch, though, but I bet 
you'll find ways to work with that limitation.

All the best,
Stéphane


On Sunday, 14 April 2019 08:38:10 UTC+1, [email protected] wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm a new MLO user. I've worked with Task apps since 1995 (Yep! I'm that 
> old). Back then I had to program one in Access for our small company, as 
> nothing was existing. It later evolved (2003) to a private web app still in 
> use today. Projects and Tasks dependency were the strongest features, 
> allowing one person to supervise many projects and colleagues without 
> loosing track. Selling a new project was as easy as copying a template, add 
> a few specific notes and everybody knew what they had to do when it was 
> time to do it. Why bill a client if the delivery has not even been done yet 
> etc... I'm now an early retiree but after (25) years of structuring my 
> professional life around such an app, it was only natural that I try to 
> structure my extended personal life with a similar tool.
>
> Strong from that background I'll start by saying that MLO is very well 
> done. Some might say that it is a complicated app compared to all the 
> Toodledo and company. But with complexity comes flexibility and this is 
> where all those To-do apps fall short rapidly. It's only a slitghly steeper 
> learning curve and after that you're rewarded.The UI in MLO, both Windows 
> and iOs are very pleasant to use and this is also important. MLO also has a 
> manual and from having been in a business that required manuals I know that 
> it consumes a lot of time and energy while many will not even take a look 
> at it. To me it was the "no-fun" part of the creation process. However it 
> is Important and MLO does it. Even if I'm still setting-up and moving 
> things around I can definitely confirm at this point that the task 
> dependency ease of manipulation goes far and beyond anything I'm seen so 
> far. Good job MLO! 
>
> Enough said and let's go with the questions : 
>
> *1. Project status :* The filtering tools in MLO are fantastic and allows 
> you to slice and dice your tasks in any ways. Still, I find it awkward that 
> tasks under projects that are NOT "In Progress" are computed as "Active". 
> This forces you to make-up filters everywhere while the core views are 
> already well conceived. In the iOs app / Today view I don't even think you 
> can filter the view to include only "In Progress" projects. Is everybody's 
> fine with that? Can you share how you cope with it?
>
> *2. Look at the forest. Not only one tree:* This is what I was saying 
> while training peoples on our app. Having a list of tasks to handle today 
> really helps you focus on your day. But when you get to a specific task, it 
> is many time prudent or at least helpful to look at the project globally. 
> If other persons are using that philosophy, from a To-do view, how do you 
> quickly look at the project? I would have like to have the possibility 
> click on an hyperlink (project's name) and have a new view with only that 
> project. Ex.: *[Project Whatever]* Do something with it  Same thing on 
> the iOs version where the project's name is there, almost already looking 
> has something you could hyperlink to.
>
> *3. Recursively to all subtasks:* Maybe it is because of a language 
> barrier (French Canadian) but I don't seem to understand what is that 
> checkbox in (Right-click/Advanced/Sort sub-tasks...). I could not find 
> anything in the manual either. I taught that by checking this box, the 
> sorting of the target branch would resort itself repeatedly but the few 
> tests I've made don't seem to produce that expected behaviour. How do you 
> use it?
>
> Thanks for your inputs and again, great job MLO!
>
> Michel
>

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