For those specific examples, I would expect the same thing with "hierarchy off" and "hierarchy on with parent and child off". Sometimes different combinations of settings will happen to give you the same results.
You are correct that the bug disappears with hierarchy off - but the bug is still there with "hierarchy on with parent and child off" and it's still a problem. If your point is that my expectations of "hierarchy on with parent and child off" are wrong, I would just say that this isn't clearly documented, and what you do in fact see with "hierarchy on with parent and child off" is very strange. For instance, in case 1, why does "red top" remain but "blue middle" and "green bottom" go away? There does not seem to be any good explanation for this, and I don't believe anyone would expect this outcome. Can you describe a simple rule that would explain it? > Could you enhance your example to show what you expect from "hierarchy on with parent and child off" that's different from "hierarchy off"? Sure, here you go: Hierarchy: outside (text tag: abcd) one (text tag: ac) two (text tag: ad) three (text tag: bd) four (text tag: bc) Case 4: With advanced filter for text tag b, hierarchy on, parent and child off: What you should get: outside three four What you do get: outside Case 5: With advanced filter for text tag c, hierarchy on, parent and child off: What you should get: outside one two three four What you do get: outside one Case 6: With advanced filter for text tag d, hierarchy on, parent and child off: What you should get: outside two three What you do get: outside Case 7: With advanced filter for text tag a, hierarchy on, parent ON, child off, parent filter by text containing 'x': What you should get: outside one two What you do get: nothing Case 8: With advanced filter for text tag b, hierarchy on, parent ON, child off, parent filter by text containing 'x': What you should get: outside one two What you do get: nothing Case 9: With advanced filter for text tag c, hierarchy on, parent ON, child off, parent filter by text containing 'x': What you should get: outside one two three four What you do get: nothing Case 10: With advanced filter for text tag d, hierarchy on, parent ON, child off, parent filter by text containing 'x': What you should get: outside three four What you do get: nothing On Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 10:05:08 AM UTC-8 Dwight wrote: > Hi, Julie(?) > > Re the third example, I do not have time to reproduce and explore this > right now. Maybe one of the other users will, or maybe Support will explain > it to us. > > For the other two examples, my comment is that if you replaced "hierarchy > on with parent and child off" with "hierarchy off" it looks to me as though > you would get the desired results. Could you enhance your example to show > what you expect from "hierarchy on with parent and child off" that's > different from "hierarchy off"? > > -Dwight > On 1/24/2021 11:08, funjul...@gmail.com wrote: > > Thanks! Here's the email I sent to support. I'll probably make yet another > post for it, asking people if they can reproduce it and if they agree it's > a bug. > > - - - > > I love MLO, but I am having trouble because there are several bugs with > the hierarchy displays, which makes it hard for me to use the full power of > the software. > > The following example shows the bugs clearly: > > red top (text tag: x) > red middle > red bottom > blue top (text tag: z) > blue middle (text tag: xy) > blue bottom > green top (text tag: z) > green middle > green bottom (text tag: xy) > > 1. With advanced filter for text tag x, hierarchy on, parent and child > off: > > What you should get: > > red top > blue middle > green bottom > > What you do get: > > red top > > 2. With advanced filter for text tag y, hierarchy on, parent and child > off: > > What you should get: > > blue middle > green bottom > > What you do get: nothing > > 3. With advanced filter for text tag y, hierarchy on, parent on, child > off, parent filter "text tag does not contain z" > > What you should get: > > blue middle > green middle > green bottom > > What you do get: > > green middle > green bottom > > Thank you so much! I really hope this can be fixed soon because the > program is amazing and it would be just what I needed with this bug fixed > > On Sunday, January 24, 2021 at 7:58:38 AM UTC-8 Dwight wrote: > >> Hi, Julie (Sorry if you are not Julie, you didn't sign your post and >> that's the closest I could find to a name) >> >> You have submitted four posts talking about an issue with a filtered >> hierarchy. It's clear that you are trying to accomplish something that you >> consider simple and that you are extraordinarily frustrated about the >> difficulties you have encountered. I'm pretty good at this and I can not >> quite figure out what went wrong, or what you are trying to do. Your emails >> have some discussions of your own issue, some quotes from old emails I have >> sent to several other people and my examples, and some of the problem >> statements from the other users I was writing to. Put it all together and >> it's too confusing for me to figure out. Maybe a different reader gets it, >> but if not I will try to work it through with you if you like. >> >> First, let me try and guess what your actual issue is. My guess is: >> >> *When you have a filtered list of tasks and also have "include parents" >> turned on, that a task that passes the main filter but that does not have >> any parent is not included.* >> >> If this is the issue, let me know and I will help you report it. If >> fixing this would not be enough to fix your problem, then please write a >> new email that demonstrates the problem. Leave out all the references to >> previous conversations and theories about the cause, just provide these >> four things: >> >> - A small hierarchy, as simple as you can make it but still >> sufficient to show the problem. If task properties that play a role are >> not >> visible (context, deadline, goal, etc) include them in your message >> - A description of a view/filter that illustrates the issue. The view >> should be as simple as possible. Please describe ALL filters and >> specifications that you are setting in the view >> - A sample of the listing you want to get >> - A sample of the listing that you actually get >> >> >> OK? >> >> -Dwight >> On 1/24/2021 00:06, funjul...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> I am struggling with this bug as well and hope that we can get this >> fixed. Parent and child filters should work in a clear, consistent way, not >> sometimes randomly decide to exclude tasks that pass the main filters. >> >> Happy to help report this. >> >> On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 2:01:52 PM UTC-8 Dwight Arthur wrote: >> >>> Hi, Kjell. >>> >>> This goes back quite a while and I may not be recalling it 100% >>> correctly but I will do my best. >>> I believe that when you have a filtered list of tasks and also have >>> "include parents" turned on, that a task that passes the main filter but >>> that does not have any parent is not included. I seem to recall one person >>> a couple of years ago who reported this. I believe that there was some >>> discussion, the final outcome of which was that this was by design and that >>> the user should create a parent for the task in question. >>> >>> Would this response help you? If not, we could work together to report >>> this as a bug to the developers, and see if the result is any different >>> this time around - maybe they would fix it. Let me know if you want to take >>> this forward. >>> -Dwight >>> MLO Betazoid on Windows, Cloud and Android SGN2 >>> On 2/24/2016 10:13 AM, kjell moens wrote: >>> >>> Thanks, but it does not change anything >>> >>> On Thursday, February 18, 2016 at 10:38:30 PM UTC+2, pottster wrote: >>>> >>>> Try changing Show Actions from Available to All >>>> >>>> On Thursday, 18 February 2016 12:55:50 UTC, kjell moens wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I have a predefined structure in MLO (see screenshot 1), but when in >>>>> the todo view, I set "Show Hierarchy" to yes and set a parent filter >>>>> (screen shot 2), the folders are no longer shown but neither is the root >>>>> task (screen shot 3). 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