Some important things I would do: 1. Always backup any important .ml files and maybe some other file(S) even before trying something I didn't think would touch it 2. Start new empty file to prove it's something in my big tasks file; as long as it runs the speed I expected, keep adding more of the type of tasks and structure to see if I can detect what caused my other .ml to slow down. 3. If I do get a non-personal .ml to slow down, definitely send that to the mlo team and detail problems I see, and detail specs for my computer.
On Monday, May 9, 2022 at 6:33:19 AM UTC-6 Jon R wrote: > Rambling response - No major breakthroughs, but the RAM point is > interesting. Maybe I will invest in some more... Otherwise I see myself > having to ration open apps/windows like it's 1995. The fact 8GB is not > 'enough' is blowing my mind slightly. > > On the other hand I do have a bunch of apps running that don't necessarily > 'play well with others'. How would I know if they are optimised? > > Even Win10 is a vast collection of processes/services and how would any > user know to tweak it? > > My sadly jaundiced view is that everything MS is bloaty inefficient and > self-serving (esp. how the processes multiply e.g. Teams - when it is doing > literally nothing...! - today 'Edge webview' - again uncommanded and > unwanted). > > End of Moan. > > > On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 6:35:57 PM UTC+1 imajeff wrote: > >> Windows 10 does it to me a lot. Hardware can make a huge difference but >> certainly I need to have more than 16GB physical RAM because of what runs >> in the background these days, and at least use SSD instead of my old SATA >> drives. The biggest slowdown has been when it runs out of RAM with >> everything that has started up so it does more swapping which means when an >> app needs more ram it has to first save less-used data from other apps to >> the hard drive. Drives are way way slower than RAM. >> To quote somebody from google, >> "Under best case lab conditions the fastest SSD is 46 times slower than >> DDR3 RAM." >> >> On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 8:38:14 AM UTC-6 Jon R wrote: >> >>> Chris, Thanks for the insight, I don't think my lag is unique to MLO so >>> I am starting to blame Win10 or other conflicting sw - I tried out your >>> point about visible items, it didn't help. But your point about AV will >>> take me a bit longer to figure out. >>> >>> It's funny, perceptions of strong PCs - if I was gaming or video editing >>> or something I would know I am underpowered, but my beef (with PCs ie >>> Win10) is that (in this case) the lag happens - but processor is doing >>> nothing really, RAM is free, disk IO is barely moving.... >>> >>> Also, there is nothing in Win10 to help performance, like a 'watchdog' >>> program. Last time I tried a 3p performance tool it ran amok and made >>> things worse. >>> >>> But I will report back if/when I find the culprit... >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 6:54:34 PM UTC+1 [email protected] wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Jon, >>>> >>>> I've chimed in on this before. This is not to cast doubt on your >>>> slowdown - I'd love to see it fixed for you. This is just a datum point >>>> to compare to. >>>> >>>> About six weeks ago I started using one of my larger MLO files on quite >>>> an old laptop. >>>> >>>> It has 16 GB RAM. The processor is a 2.50 GHz Intel i7 (4710MQ) with 4 >>>> cores and 8 logical processors. So it's far from a blistering power >>>> house. I'm running Windows 10 Pro. >>>> >>>> Currently, MLO is reporting (in Task Manager, Processes tab) that it's >>>> using 38.6 MB of RAM. >>>> >>>> The MLO file open is 2.76 MB in size and has 12,227 tasks - pretty much >>>> identical to yours. >>>> >>>> Everything is lightning fast for me. Instant response when I hit >>>> Insert, >>>> and text appears as fast as I can type. That's inserting into the Inbox >>>> with about 40 tasks in there. But perhaps things slow down if you're >>>> inserting into a folder/node/view with a substantial number of tasks >>>> visible? >>>> >>>> Quite often when I've seen programs slow mysteriously, It's down to >>>> anti-virus software intervening constantly. Certainly worth eliminating >>>> that in your case by disabling it temporarily. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Chris Randle >>>> >>>> >>>> On 30/04/2022 11:03, Jon R wrote: >>>> > Hi Peeps, >>>> > >>>> > Recently I seem to be suffering a lag when starting to type a new >>>> entry. >>>> > Sometimes the screen does not refresh as I type - so the first few >>>> > letters/words appear all at once after a second or two. Or the first >>>> > word appears then there is a delay. Sometimes clicking 'new item' has >>>> a >>>> > noticeable delay until the 'new task' appears. >>>> > >>>> > I use one MLO database, so it is getting 'big' - 2.4MB, 12k items. >>>> > (Previously I polled the forum and others reported much bigger dbs >>>> with >>>> > no particular issues). >>>> > >>>> > Since I am not in tech I don't know what processes occur, but it >>>> seems >>>> > like MLO either has internal processes that are now taking a longer >>>> time >>>> > due the size of the db?... Or is being hijacked by the vast array of >>>> > Win10 and other sw processes running?? I worry that Win10 is doing >>>> stuff >>>> > that I really don't need - and is nefariously 'anti' any sw that is >>>> not >>>> > MS... >>>> > >>>> > [All that said, this is a tiny inconvenience and needs to be placed >>>> in >>>> > the context of - >>>> > a. MLO is really great! >>>> > b. 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