Thank you Alyona,
I liked what you were saying, I just could not understand why I had no 
button right there where your screenshot shows the "Discard changes". 
Obviously, I could not click it until it was there...

Now I found out I have to expand by clicking "^ Filter" and then the Views 
collapse to show that. Interesting you cannot save a view until you hide 
the views. Then as I was right you cannot save Outline (defaut view) so I 
saved as "Outline1". Now I have what I needed. I've mentioned that I had 
not been using filters and maybe I knew 10 years ago. Now I see the button, 
which answers my other question how to even save a filter. Obviously, those 
options weren't available until I learned to expand that.

Also I am just suggesting that if you click on a heading that says "Task 
Name" you would know it will change sort order by that specifically, so 
maybe someone could think of better wording for users to know. I had 
thought maybe clicking it could change to not show All or something. At 
least you finally told me what it means, but I didn't know if that asterisk 
was there before so it all seemed so cryptic. Documenting is hard but I 
hope you have that explained someplace.
Thanks again

On Tuesday, May 31, 2022 at 6:13:43 AM UTC-6 Alyona (MLO Support) wrote:

> The asterisk in "View: *All tasks > >" means that the view has unsaved 
> changes. It is no longer the same as it was by default or last saved. In 
> your case it changed when you clicked on the heading. 
>
> You can "Discard changes" to revert the view to its original state. Or, it 
> may be enough to only disable that alphabetical sorting - this can be done 
> in the filter settings <https://prnt.sc/f6d-zaoer17E>: Filter -> 
> Group&Sort -> Sort -> set sorting to (None). 
>
> We agree that this should be clearer, and we will consider improvements. 
> Thank you for the comments, we really appreciate them. 
>
> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 10:59:52 PM UTC+1 imajeff wrote:
>
>> Interesting; I've never seen a "save view" button let alone any "Discard 
>> changes". This is the "Outline" tab, a default; Is that what a view is, 
>> each tab? I struggle just to get something I can be productive with, so I 
>> don't have time to create special views.
>> Is this documented, whatever you are referring to?
>>
>> The heading I clicked only says "View: *All tasks > >" so there was not 
>> even any indication it would try to sort top-level tasks in alphabetical 
>> order. There is lack of communication as well as the problem I didn't even 
>> know what had been done or if I needed to undo until later.
>>
>> The thing is, if a "saved" view is listing each task and in my custom 
>> order, do you mean when I clicked that heading which sorted by alphabetical 
>> order,  there is no "alphabetical order" mode being saved? It just 
>> independently saves an order which happened to be alphabetical that time? 
>> Is that why there is no way to change the sort back to not alphabetical?
>> This is perplexing, from a design point of view.
>>
>> On Friday, May 27, 2022 at 8:52:32 AM UTC-6 Alyona (MLO Support) wrote:
>>
>>> I am sorry that you faced this issue. By clicking "Discard changes" (here 
>>> <https://prnt.sc/3d4D1jCV7EYA>is the screenshot) you should be able to 
>>> get to the original outline if you previously saved your view. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 10:56:01 PM UTC+1 imajeff wrote:
>>>
>>>> Now my order of the outline is all messed up because I thought, "no way 
>>>> it would mess up the order when I carefully created tasks in the logical 
>>>> order I need in my outline!"
>>>> Why would anybody want to mess that up? And is there any way to get my 
>>>> original outline back after it changed top level to alphabetical order? 
>>>> Seriously it should not have changed any order when I clicked the heading 
>>>> of the main All Tasks view unless there was a way to restore the order I 
>>>> created and dragged tasks to.
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 12:57:10 AM UTC-6 patricio... wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hi All, I'm facing this same issue Radek describes here. is it a bug 
>>>>> or sorting only works at level zero by design?
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Patricio.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 8:05:44 AM UTC-3 radek... wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> When I enable Hierarchy in Custom View Settings, then the hierarchy 
>>>>>> items don't respond to sort by setting. Even when I set multiple levels 
>>>>>> of 
>>>>>> sort by (due date, due date, due date), the items displayed through the 
>>>>>> Show hierarchy option are not being sorted and are displayed as they are 
>>>>>> in 
>>>>>> the task list. I think this is either a bug a there should be a 
>>>>>> secondary 
>>>>>> sort by option added to the Hierarchy settings section.
>>>>>
>>>>>

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