Don't forget, Microsoft and Oracle are behind it so it _MUST_ be the
greatest thing to come along since sliced bread. You folks need to keep
in mind that with the microsoft system the XML layer IS NOT part of the
database it self but an additional application which talks to the
database via 'ODBC' so once again we have a situation where XML IS NOT
and SHOULD NOT be part of the RDBMS, BUT is rather a middleware
application to support users whom wish to use the XML system.



Peter Skipworth wrote:
> 
> > How is this superior to SQL?
> 
> It includes the letters "XML", which, apparantly, can do everything from
> butter your toast to giving you an orgasm like no other you've had
> before. Don't you just *love* buzzwords!
> 
> Sorry...I had to say it =) And no, I'm not at all the cynical type...not
> I!
> 
> P
> 
>  Why replace a great,
> stable and mature > language for querying databases with a verbose one?
> >
> > Also, a database IS a huge archive of structured data.  :)
> >
> > salutations,
> > Cal
> > http://www.calevans.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Florian G. Pflug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 6:31 PM
> > To: Juergen Fey
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: XML support under mySQL
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 24, 2001 at 12:50:13PM +0100, Juergen Fey wrote:
> > > Adding XML support to mySQL is no big deal if your`re talking about very
> > > structured data sets like
> > >
> > > <Player>
> > >   <FirstName>Joe</FirstName>
> > >   <LastName>Montana</LastName>
> > >   <Average Team="49ers">not bad at all</Average>
> > > </Player>
> > >
> > > If you got to handle a lot of these, than its easy to write an external
> > XML
> > > I/O filter
> > > which even could handle the attributes. The result would be a simple flat
> > > Table.
> > >
> > > BUT .... if you`re talking unstructured  XML data like typical articles,
> > > where
> > > the schema or DTD defines some sort of flexible substructures (that`s what
> > > i am dealing with a lot) then the relational database model won`t work too
> > > good, since you would need either to generate one TABLE per article plus
> > > using generated acess code (beans etc.) or you would  have to link each
> > > elements content into specific tables ... costly if you got to retrieve
> > > stuff.
> >
> > I think XML support should not be just "sending the respone of an
> > SQL-Queries written in a weird way as an XML Document as another weird XML
> > Document to the client".
> >
> > It should make the DB-Server into a hugh archive of structured data.
> > One need to rething the concept of tables, fields, record for this...
> >
> > Maybe one DB would just be one big XML-Document (of course stored not at a
> > plain text file, but somehow more sophisticated - and indexed of course),
> > and querieny would mean to look for a certain patters of tags...
> >
> > Maybe a queried could look like this.
> >
> > <invoice total > "18000">
> > <count min="15">
> >       <item>
> >       </item>
> > </count>
> > </invoice>
> >
> > Meaning: look for invoices which a total price over 18000, and which have at
> > least 15 items.
> >
> >
> > Just my stupid ideas at 2:00 am in the morning.. but I think this would
> > certainly make some peoples lives easier.... ;-))
> >
> > greetings, Florian Pflug
> >
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