Oh, no. I know about etc/hosts (even Windoze boxes has one). It's just normally not available for reference until you bind your socket library to at least one socket. Again, it's a cart and horse thing. You see, the etc/hosts file counts as a "local" DNS server and the DNS protocol requires a socket (
I am not aware of any IP stack that will allow an etc/hosts lookup until you have at least one socket established (though I could be wrong). Shawn Green Database Administrator Unimin Corporation - Spruce Pine James Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/27/2006 04:26:37 PM: > You seem to be unaware of /etc/hosts. > > > Yes, there is a very good, not so technical reason to only allow binding > > by IP Address. Have you ever heard of "putting the cart before the horse" > > ? > > > > If binding by hostname were allowed, that would mean that every time your > > MySQL server started up, it would need to somehow resolve that name into > > an address. In order to do that, it needs a socket it can use to contact a > > DNS server in order to change the hostname back into an address. Where > > does it get the socket? Without a socket, it cannot contact a DNS server > > so it cannot resolve it's hostname to an address and it will not be able > > to bind to a socket. > > I can't speak for your machine, but on my servers, DNS is up before > MySQL starts. > > > Binding is the process of giving a socket (an address and a port) to an > > application so that it has a point of contact on the internet. Without a > > socket an application has no way to communicate over TCP/IP or UDP/IP as > > there would be nowhere for the return messages to land. That is the simple > > reason why you cannot bind to a hostname. > > > > Did I make sense? > > Yes, but none of the information was new. > > > Shawn Green > > Database Administrator > > Unimin Corporation - Spruce Pine > > > > James Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/27/2006 03:59:14 PM: > > > > > > It doesn't allow to bind to a hostname. According to > > > > > > > > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/server-options.html > > > > > > > > you have to specify an IP address, not a hostname. > > > > > > > > -Sheeri > > > > > > Thanks for your reply. Yes, I am aware of that, as stated in > > > my question. > > > > > > Wouldn't it be an improvement if it did, though? Currently, I > > > have to use an ugly grep/awk hack to grep the address out of > > > /etc/hosts. Are there technical reasons that make it difficult > > > to write the code such that one could specify an IP or a hostname, > > > or a list of IPs and/or hostnames? > > > > > > I'm looking for something similar to PostgreSQL's: > > > > > > -h hostname > > > Specifies the IP host name or address on which the postmaster is > > > to listen for TCP/IP connections from client applications. The > > > value can also be a space-separated list of addresses, or * to > > > specify listening on all available interfaces. An empty value > > > specifies not listening on any IP addresses, in which case only > > > Unix-domain sockets can be used to connect to the postmaster. > > > Defaults to listening only on localhost. Specifying this option > > > is equivalent to setting the listen_addresses configuration > > > parameter. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/22/06, James Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I would like to be able to bind to a host name, rather than > > > > > an IP number. IP numbers come and go, and are beyond the > > > > > control of anyone who doesn't have their own direct allocation. > > > > > But since I own my domain, a host name is more permanent. > > > > > > > > > > When the time comes to change IP numbers, I want to just edit > > > > > /etc/hosts to show my new IP: > > > > > > > > > > 10.0.0.10 shortname myrealname.example.com > > > > > > > > > > and use "--bind-address=shortname" in my start-up script to > > > > > automatically pick up the new IP number. > > > > > > > > > > This eliminates the headache of having to find and fix umpteen > > > > > literal IP numbers hiding in my startup scripts. This is much > > > > > the same reason one says '#define BLKSIZ 512' and then uses the > > > > > constant 'BLKSIZ' instead of sprinkling literal '512's throughout > > > > > one's code). > > > > > > > > > > Why doesn't bind-address allow this? Or if it does, how can I > > > > > accomplish this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > MySQL General Mailing List > > > > > For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql > > > > > To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > MySQL General Mailing List > > > For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql > > > To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > --=_alternative 0075136A85257122_= > > Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > > > <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Yes, there is a very good, not > so technical > > reason to only allow binding by IP Address. Have you ever heard of > > "putting the cart before the horse" ?</font> > > <br> > > <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">If binding by hostname were allowed, > > that would mean that every time your MySQL server started up, it would > > need to somehow resolve that name into an address. In order to do that, > > it needs a socket it can use to contact a DNS server in order to change > > the hostname back into an address. Where does it get the socket? Without > > a socket, it cannot contact a DNS server so it cannot resolve it's hostname > > to an address and it will not be able to bind to a socket.</font> > > <br> > > <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Binding is the process of giving a socket > > (an address and a port) to an application so that it has a point of contact > > on the internet. Without a socket an application has no way to communicate > > over TCP/IP or UDP/IP as there would be nowhere for the return messages > > to land. That is the simple reason why you cannot bind to a hostname.</font> > > <br> > > <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Did I make sense?</font> > > <br> > > <br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Shawn Green<br> > > Database Administrator<br> > > Unimin Corporation - Spruce Pine</font> > > <br> > > <br><font size=2><tt>James Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > on 02/27/2006 03:59:14 PM:<br> > > <br> > > > > It doesn't allow to bind to a hostname. According to<br> > > > > <br> > > > > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/server-options.html<br> > > > > <br> > > > > you have to specify an IP address, not a hostname.<br> > > > > <br> > > > > -Sheeri<br> > > > <br> > > > Thanks for your reply. Yes, I am aware of that, as stated in<br> > > > my question.<br> > > > <br> > > > Wouldn't it be an improvement if it did, though? Currently, > > I<br> > > > have to use an ugly grep/awk hack to grep the address out of<br> > > > /etc/hosts. Are there technical reasons that make it > difficult<br> > > > to write the code such that one could specify an IP or a hostname,<br> > > > or a list of IPs and/or hostnames?<br> > > > <br> > > > I'm looking for something similar to PostgreSQL's:<br> > > > <br> > > > -h hostname<br> > > > Specifies the IP host name or address on which > the postmaster > > is<br> > > > to listen for TCP/IP connections from client > > applications. The<br> > > > value can also be a space-separated list of addresses, > > or * to<br> > > > specify listening on all available > > interfaces. An empty value<br> > > > specifies not listening on any IP addresses, in which > > case only<br> > > > Unix-domain sockets can be used to > > connect to the postmaster.<br> > > > Defaults to listening only on localhost. Specifying > > this option<br> > > > is equivalent to setting the > > listen_addresses configuration<br> > > > parameter.<br> > > > <br> > > > <br> > > > > <br> > > > > On 2/22/06, James Long <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > com> wrote:<br> > > > > > I would like to be able to bind to a host name, > rather than<br> > > > > > an IP number. IP numbers come and go, and are beyond > > the<br> > > > > > control of anyone who doesn't have their own direct > allocation.<br> > > > > > But since I own my domain, a host name is more permanent.<br> > > > > ><br> > > > > > When the time comes to change IP numbers, I want to just > > edit<br> > > > > > /etc/hosts to show my new IP:<br> > > > > ><br> > > > > > 10.0.0.10 shortname > myrealname.example.com<br> > > > > ><br> > > > > > and use "--bind-address=shortname" in my start-up > > script to<br> > > > > > automatically pick up the new IP number.<br> > > > > ><br> > > > > > This eliminates the headache of having to find and > fix umpteen<br> > > > > > literal IP numbers hiding in my startup scripts. This > > is much<br> > > > > > the same reason one says '#define BLKSIZ 512' and then uses > > the<br> > > > > > constant 'BLKSIZ' instead of sprinkling literal > '512's throughout<br> > > > > > one's code).<br> > > > > ><br> > > > > > Why doesn't bind-address allow this? Or if it does, > > how can I<br> > > > > > accomplish this?<br> > > > > ><br> > > > > ><br> > > > > > Thanks!<br> > > > > ><br> > > > > ><br> > > > > > Jim<br> > > > > ><br> > > > > > --<br> > > > > > MySQL General Mailing List<br> > > > > > For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql<br> > > > > > To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql. > com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]<br> > > > > ><br> > > > > ><br> > > > > <br> > > > <br> > > > <br> > > > -- <br> > > > MySQL General Mailing List<br> > > > For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql<br> > > > To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql? > [EMAIL PROTECTED]<br> > > > <br> > > </tt></font> > > --=_alternative 0075136A85257122_=-- > > >
