Which one is more suitable for developing an ERP Application ? MyISAM or InnoDB ?
Are there other tools to backup MySQL Database than Standard GUI Tools which MySQL provide in the website ? So far, I use this GUI tools and setup an automatic backup on 9AM everyday. Is this backup tools is reliable enough ? Regards, Lucky. ________________________________ From: mos <mo...@fastmail.fm> To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Sent: Fri, April 9, 2010 10:03:26 PM Subject: Re: MyISAM better than innodb for large files? Kyong, Thanks for the feedback on InnoDb. I will tinker with it when I have more time. I wonder if MySQL will ever release an alternative to Innodb like Falcon or whether Falcon is dead as a dodo? :-) Mike At 11:07 PM 4/8/2010, Kyong Kim wrote: >We've seen good results throwing more RAM to the buffer pool. >It is true that InnoDB data never gets accessed directly on disk. >The only downside I know of with a larger buffer pool is slower restarts. > >The load speed depends on the order of the inserts. >Random inserts or updates to primary key will cause result in very >poor performance. >I once ran a test doing completely random insert to InnoDB with a very >small buffer pool on my VM dev machine and it took days to load a >million rows before finally failing. Keep in mind that there may have >been other factors at work as well (we had a rather unusual indexing >strategy which worked for our use case). If you can pre-sort your load >file by primary key order, your load speed should be much better. > >In terms of loading data, I doubt you will see better performance with >InnoDB than MyISAM. Our selection was heavily biased towards data >access. I have heard that InnoDB insert buffer scales much more >linearly than MyISAM but I don't know the details. We clustered our >data using a longer composite primary key and saw fairly good data >access performance. > >I would caution against InnoDB if you foresee heavy random inserts. >Kyong > > >On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 8:21 AM, mos <mo...@fastmail.fm> wrote: > > At 09:10 PM 4/7/2010, you wrote: > >> > >> Also depends on your data access pattern as well. > >> If you can take advantage of clustering my primary key for your > >> selects, then InnoDB could do it for you. > >> My suggestion would be to write some queries based on projected > >> workload, build 2 tables with lots and lots of data, and do some > >> isolated testing. For work, I do a lot of query profiling using > >> maatkit. Be sure to clear out as much of the caching as possible > >> including the OS cache. > > > > In a related topic, does anyone know how well InnoDb is going to perform if > > you have a 250 million row table (100gb) and only 8gb of RAM? It was my > > understanding that InnoDb needed to fit as much of the table into memory as > > it could for it to be fast. Also, how long is it going to take to load 250 > > million rows (using Load Data InFile) compared to a MyISAM table? I've > > always found InnoDb to be incredibly slow at loading large amounts of data > > and nothing I could think of would speed things up. I too would like to > > switch to InnoDb but until I can solve these problem I'm sticking with > > MyISAM for large tables. > > > > Mike > > > > > >> On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Jan Steinman <j...@bytesmiths.com> wrote: > >> >> From: Gavin Towey <gto...@ffn.com> > >> >> > >> >> InnoDB should be your default for all tables, unless you have specific > >> >> requirements that need myisam. One specific example of an appropriate > >> >> task > >> >> for myisam is where you need very high insert throughput, and you're > >> >> not > >> >> doing any updates/deletes concurrently. > >> > > >> > A couple other things: InnoDB does relations better, MyISAM does search > >> > of > >> > text fields. > >> > > >> > > >> > ---------------- > >> > If we can control fuel we can control the masses; if we can control food > >> > we > >> > can control individuals. -- Henry Kissinger > >> > :::: Jan Steinman, EcoReality Co-op :::: > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > MySQL General Mailing List > >> > For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql > >> > To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql?unsub=kykim...@gmail.com > >> > > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> MySQL General Mailing List > >> For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql > >> To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql?unsub=mo...@fastmail.fm > > > > > > -- > > MySQL General Mailing List > > For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql > > To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql?unsub=kykim...@gmail.com > > > > -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To unsubscribe: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql?unsub=luckyx_cool_...@yahoo.com