Eric,
That's nice and all that you can have an extra tool to use because of spam -
I mean, they ARE real products. Most people consider TV infomercials to be
useless, but some people find use out of them. The problem is that it's
annoying to see these types of advertisements. The reason you don't see
dozens of these emails is because there are people out there with ethical
standards regarding their advertising or at least respect the primary
function of the mailing list. If we say its okay, then that will only
encourage someone later to think, "Well THEY did it, so I should be able to
do it, too." This is not an invalid slippery-slope fallacy - it has happened
before. 

As someone else posted, if someone asks a question such as, "I need to get
this and this done, how can I do it?" and someone has a product that they
KNOW will do the job, then it should be okay to post an advertisement. But
if you can work efficiently right now without a product, then you should not
need to be harassed with e-mails to buy more. I have plenty of little
programs that I could plug this mailing list with, and I know a lot of
people would find functionality in them, but if someone posts a message
saying that they are having this and this problem, then I respond privately
to them with the solution. If I create the next phpMyAdmin or some popular
program like that, then I won't need to send advertisements to a mailing
list. Whoever I responded privately to will refer others word-of-mouth if it
helped them. 

- Jonathan

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Frazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:41 AM
To: Jonathan Hilgeman
Cc: 'Cathy Cunningham (Blue World Lasso Evangelist)';
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: A COMPANY RELEASES A NON-FINAL VERSION OF SOME PRODUCT
NON-PREMIUM EDITION


Hi,

This is complete crap. One of the tools I use is because of an email I saw
on this list that might have been called spam. 
I say that this type of email is on topic. Maybe they could have eased up on
the BS tone of the email, but I would still want to know about a new
product. The only other question that comes up is would it be worthwhile to
setup a mySQL announce list for 3rd party tools? 
I don't exactly see dozens of these types of email a day right now though. 

Eric 

At 08:44 AM 10/18/01 -0700, Jonathan Hilgeman wrote:
>The harm doesn't come from you offering something beneficial to the MySQL
>community. It comes when you abuse the privileges of being on this list and
>send spam. 

http://www.kwinternet.com/eric
(250) 655 - 9513



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