"Keith C. Ivey" wrote:
> 
> On 10 Jan 2002, at 18:48, Thibaut Allender wrote:
> 
> > maybe they think their filter is OK :
> >
> >  >>>Your message cannot be posted because it appears to be either spam or
> >  >>>simply off topic to our filter. To bypass the filter you must include
> >  >>>one of the following words in your message:
> >  >>>
> >  >>>database,sql,query,table
> 
> But the filter apparently doesn't care about word boundaries, so spam
> messages that contain "profitable" or "stable" or the address of the
> list get through.  At least, that's what seems to be the explanation
> for the spam that reaches us.
> 
> I'm sure the filter blocks a lot of spam, but it misses a lot too,
> and it block real messages.  No other list I'm on has such a filter.
> They just prevent posting from addresses that aren't subscribed, and
> it seems to work.  Few spammers will go to the trouble of subscribing
> to individual lists.
> 
> --
> Keith C. Ivey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Washington, DC
> 
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The problem is a historic one.  It doesn't make much sense to require
subscription since it doesn't appear that the lions share of those looking for
initial help with MySQL have the aptitude to subscribe for just the period of
time they need it.  I.e., my observation is that most people posting are just
trying to get MySQL installed, and they never want to hear about MySQL again
once it's on their server so a permanent subscription makes no sense to them. 
The volume of mail on this list seems to really irritate them and they don't
appear to have the tenacity, skills or proper MUA to unsubscribe.  It fascinates
me that some of them actually get a running server (a la cd /cdrom/RedHat && rpm
-Ivh mysql* && /etc/init.d/mysql start) at all, but I digress.

That leaves the developers and database programmers building applications who
have at least enough aptitude to use FILTERS!!! of their own, and love the list
despite it's volume.

Spam exists.  The moderator(s)/software used by the list is more effective than
it could be, but it's also less effective than it could be.  Spam cannot be
completely stopped, period.  Posting about how poorly the list deals with it is
fairly useless.  Including this post you're reading right now...

Regards,
Van

database,sql,query,table
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