Well, its tough to compare system configurations in a very general way. I've 
run any number of different systems. I can tell you that Sun has some very 
nice boxes. A 4 way SMP server with a couple gigs of ram and 1-2 internal 36 
gig drives can be had in the 25k price range. They're perfectly nice boxes 
and will run Linux fine as far as I know. IBM makes a whole line of similar 
PPC servers. 

I think you'll find that the RISC systems have fewer processors and run at 
lower clockspeeds for the same total performance. 100k is a HUGE amount of 
money to drop on a system. You could get 2 full racks of high performance 1U 
systems, including everything, for less, but whatever!

On Wednesday 03 April 2002 22:49, JW wrote:
> Trying to send this again... SPAM filter messing with me...
>
> "this is a query about what hardware might make for a really good sql
> server"
>
> There :-p
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >I need some advise.
> >
> >We are about to purchase a huge system for use as a DB/web application
> > server (mostly DB).
> >
> >I'd like to point out that upper management (not me) has decided to do
> > this... please don't tell me that I don't need something that big, or
> > that I should use an x86 cluster - that's already out of the question,
> > and out of my hands.
> >
> >The server they had already decided to get is a Dell PowerEdge 8450 with
> > an external PowerVault storage array. See details here: PowerEdge 8450:
> >http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.asp?customer_id=04&keycode=6
> >W300&order_code=PE8450&cfgpg=1#updatepriceNS PowerVault 22xS
> >http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.asp?order_code=PV22XS&custom
> >er_id=04&keycode=6W300&family_id=9171
> >
> >The server is an eight-way PIII Xeon , 32GB of RAM, price approx. $99,000
> > USD - let's say $100,000 In some configurations we've gotten higher.
> >
> >
> >PowerVault approx. $7,500 USD for five-disk RAID 5, 36GB 15k SCSI disks.
> >
> >Management asked me and another tech. to figure out exactly what we need.
> > We called Dell, and the Dell tech said this would be going head on with
> > RISC based systems.
> >
> >Which got me to thinking.... I am personally not fond of x86, and don't
> > want to pass up an opportunity to get a RISC system, like an Alpha, SPARC
> > or PPC.
> >
> >Management has given me permission to make a comparison, I'm hoping
> > someone here has experience with RISC systems.
> >
> >I'd _really_ like to have a RISC system.... but I've got no idea how to go
> > about comparing them.
> >
> >For me it's like trying to compare apples and oranges when you don't even
> > know what an orange is =)
> >
> >Does anyone here know how much an Alpha, SPARC, or PPC system that has
> > comparable power would be?
> >
> >Or even _what_ systems are comparable? As I said, I've never dealt with
> > anything besides x86 and Apple PPC before, so I'm venturing into totally
> > new territory.
> >
> >If someone can give me a clue, I'd really appreciate it. Apparently we are
> > mostly after processing power (CPU+RAM), my boss said we wouldn't even
> > need a GigaBit NIC (though of course he may be wrong).
> >
> >I basically need to find a RISC system that produces the same amount of
> > power for less $$$, or at LEAST more power for the same amount of $$$.
> >
> >It must run Linux of course, much preferably SuSE. I know SuSE Enterprise
> > edition runs on SPARC, PPC ({i|p|z}Series and Itanium/IA64 ( I really
> > don't want the latter, though if someone gives me a convincing argument,
> > I'll consider it), and Professional 7.1 runs on Alpha, 7.3 runs on
> > PowerPC
> >
> >Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >----------------------------------------------------
> >Jonathan Wilson
> >System Administrator
> >Clickpatrol.com
> >Cedar Creek Software     http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
> Jonathan Wilson
> System Administrator
> Clickpatrol.com
> Cedar Creek Software     http://www.cedarcreeksoftware.com
>
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