Hi

Bigger than my experience, so just a suggestion - have you looked at
replication?

If you have a master which does all the processing and (multiple) slaves
which handle all the reads then you might benefit from cheaper Intel
hardware and have a more robust system to boot.

Good luck!

Peter

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-----Original Message-----
From: spiros [mailto:moka@;hol.gr]
Sent: 21 October 2002 00:00
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Tips for LARGE system


I need to come up with an intra-company system recommendation: We are
looking
at a possibly huge system getting data from a LAN(No web-based app or
anything-in fact it will NOT be connected to the web)
 handling from 3M to 20M records/day with  potentially a lot of processing,
live inserts/ updates etc.
 I have a demo version(running on a PIII 2x1000MHz, 2GB RAM
 Linux machine) but it cannot handle the full load.
I am thinking of keeping Mysql 4-0.4. and going
 to an alpha machine(running linux). The question is whether anyone has done
this before. So I am looking for tips and recommendations(before buying any
hardware):

 1) Are there any known or expected problems with Mysql on alpha machines?

2) Do I need a special linux version(the kernel I use says 2.4.18-4GB, but I
need much more RAM and
 in fact this is the main reason for going to an alpha machine)?(never used
linux on anything except Pentiums)

3) Are there any guidelines in estimating more presicely what  hardware I
will
need?
4)  I cannot foresee all the possible growth, nor will the initial budget be
huge. Is it then woth planning for building out / clustering for some
redunacy and some load balancing upfront

5) Suppose I get this system running. What are the problems in keeping it
running? Critics say that
a)"data management is a pain"
b) "scalability is pretty non-existant (just sticking more RAM)". I though
it
would be much cheaper to stick in more RAM than going to another RDBMS
c) "it lacks a load of fundamental features of large RDBMS". I thought 4.1
should be  out between end of Octobera nd January, and it will have
triggers,
no?

6) How is a hot backup organized in Mysql(i.e.  backing up the data while
 the database is running)

7) I'd also appreciate any input from people who have used official mysql
support before. Hopefully there will be a set of issues:

a) hardware requirements
b) setting up and configuring(i.e. specifying InnoDB buffer sizes)
c) performance tuneup.

Again, I'd appreciate any info from mysql people or people who used mysql
support before. My problem is that  from mysql support I am told we can
discuss all these after signing a support contract, but to get there I need
to come up with a company realistic cost estimate  that includes the
necessary hardware...

I'd appreciate any input from people running such systems.
 I have never used any other RDBMS, so I am cannot judge if the critisism is
justified or not and would appreciate any help on this

Thanks, S.Alexiou

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