On Sat, 2002-11-30 at 12:43, Pae Choi wrote: > Didn't you the previous posting that contains two paragraphs > from GPL?
He probably did but since you misread the GPL. I have talked to Richard Stallman and Eben Moglen who wrote the GPL about these issues. And you misread the GPL. /David > And if someone wants to sell the software that use the MySQL, > then simply let them downlaod it. Then you will be out of this > crap. No. You still need the client. > Also, PostgreSQL will be your alternative option as well. Yes, it is. And Firebird (the OpenSource version of Interbase). /David > Pae > > P.S.: There are many commercial software using and distributing > the software/packages under GPL, why don't you sue them then. > Huh, you will not getting anything other than your own expenses. We have sued one. You do not seem to understand that distributing is not a violation automatically. You need to fail to ship the stuff that is a part of the combined work. Or it just "mere aggregation" as when a lot of operating system vendors ship MySQL. /David > > > > Hello. > > > > This is quickly heading towards off-topic. If you are interested in a > > discussion of what the GPL means, a different forum would be more > > adequate, I think. > > > > I do not necessarily completely agree with MySQL AB's interpretation > > of the GPL, but since it's their product, I am fine with it. > > > > But what you wrote is simply wrong. > > > > On Fri 2002-11-29 at 19:28:09 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > If your software utilize the software under GPL license, you can > > > simply add those GPL licenses as well as make a note that you > > > are only selling, i.e. the price is only for your own software, your > > > own software, you should be fine. > > > > The GPL never says anything about distributing a copy for free. I does > > not matter if you want $100.000 per copy. It only says that you also > > have to provide the source code (and that, if you offer to get the > > source seperately, you may not charge more than your transfer costs > > for the source - section 3.b). > > > > On Sat 2002-11-30 at 03:18:58 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > [...] > > > > > Just to pretect your own benefit, you can add a statment saying that > > > > > all rights of GPL license reserved by them. And those are provided > > > > > just for your convenience. > > > > > > > > > What you advocate is the same as saying that you if stick a pirated > copy > > > > of windows in with your software, but disclaim in your documentation > > > > that you're only paying for your software, not the copy of windows > that > > > > is not following Microsoft's licensing terms. > > > > > > Your example is totally out of case. > > > > No. You said implicitly, that you can disregard the GPL by simply > > pointing out you only included the software for convenience. With the > > GPL, such a notice makes no sense. Either you comply with it, in which > > case you need no notice, or you do not, in which case you may not > > distribute the program. Such a notice does not change anything. That > > is what Mark tried to point out. > > > > > GPL says that it can freely distribute as long as the copyright is > > > included. > > > > That is the BSD license. > > > > The GPL indeed requires to leave the copyright notice intact, too > > (section 1), but also requires, that you either distribute a > > _verbatim_ copy (section 1) or distribute any changes or additions > > with the exception of mere aggregation (section 2). If a program uses > > MySQL in any way, you cannot claim mere aggregation, IMHO. > > > > Bye, > > > > Benjamin. > > > > > > -- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Before posting, please check: > http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) > http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) > > To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Before posting, please check: http://www.mysql.com/manual.php (the manual) http://lists.mysql.com/ (the list archive) To request this thread, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, e-mail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Trouble unsubscribing? Try: http://lists.mysql.com/php/unsubscribe.php