On Wed, Jan 15, 2003 at 11:24:05AM -0800, Jeff Kilbride wrote:
> >
> > By "updated" you mean inserts?  Or are you doing a table scan for each
> > update (since they're not indexed)?
> 
> No, they're actual updates (UPDATE table SET field=value WHERE
> primary_key=value2). The field being updated is not an index, so I'm
> assuming the index files aren't changing -- which, in general,
> should be faster than a case where an index is changed. (right?)
> However, I'm using the primary key in the WHERE clause to find the
> correct record to update -- so it's not a table scan for each
> record.

Ah, good.  I mis-understood what you were saying about indexes.  Cool.

> > Yeah, 5 seconds is the ext3 default.  You can tune it.  I recently saw
> > someone suggest this:
> >
> >   # set disk flush to 30,000 clicks or 5 minutes
> >   echo "30 64 64 256 30000 3000 60 0 0" > /proc/sys/vm/bdflush
> >
> > But have not tried it myself.
> 
> What's a "click"? I've seen some other suggestions for bdflush, also
> -- but I've seen other articles that say the defaults are pretty
> good and playing with these numbers could cause more harm than
> good...  I haven't come across anything definitive that deals with
> tuning ext3. I'm tempted to try mounting the DB drive as ext2, to
> see what difference it makes.

Yeah, I'd suggest diabling the journal and see what happens.  I belive
you can use "tunefs" to do that.  I'm a ReiserFS person myself, so
this is mostly second-hand info.  That's why I don't know what
"clicks" are in that comment either.

> Apache/PHP is also running on this box and accessing the database,
> but the load is 0.00 until I run the update script -- then the load
> jumps to anywhere between 2 and 5. If I switch modes with mytop, I
> see something like this:
> 
> 233
> 245
> 218
> 158
> 2
> 120
> 250
> 235
> 195
> 4
> etc...
> 
> Which makes me think the slowdown has something to do with the
> journal writes. I've seen numbers as high as 2000 in mytop
> consistently over 3 or 4 seconds, and more than once while the
> script runs, but I don't know why I'm getting these huge bursts of
> speed intermittently. This isn't a huge problem, I'm just puzzled
> that I can get such high numbers when my average seems 10 or 20
> times less. Is this normal?

Hmm.  Yeah I'd expect to see something a bit more even than that.

> Is there any way to optimize large numbers of UPDATES with MySQL,
> like you can INSERTS?

I don't think so.  A bulk-update syntax would be interesting...

Jeremy
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