> 
> If this is the case, is there a crude workaround method of 
> attempting to
> perform the following until such a time as it is?
> 
> SELECT COUNT(*) FROM messages WHERE forum_id IN (SELECT forum_id FROM
> forums WHERE team_no = 400)

select count(message_id)   -- assuming you have  a non-null id column 
from messages m inner join forums f
 on m.forum_id=f.forun_id
 where team_id=400

This will give the wrong result if a message can appear in more
than one forum. In that case use count distinct(message_id)


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