-----Original Message----- From: Thomas M. Pluth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 4:20 PM To: 'Brad Templeton' Subject: RE: [mythtv] Whats wrong with myth
This guys post was totally useless. He disparages MythTV, yet offers no explanation of what kind of problem he's having or what kind of hardware he's using. This tells me he hasn't done the research to see what works and what doesn't. That he claims to be a Linux zealot carries no weight. Just because he's zealous about something, that doesn't mean he knows what he's doing with it. Even the fact the he's been a programmer for 20 years carries little weight. I can say the same thing, but my experience is not with video processing, GUI's or driver development (I'm an Oracle Financials developer and I'm very good at that, but I don't know squat about writing PCI device drivers or video processing software, and I hate working on GUI applications). A post like his serves no benefit to this list. If he'd listed the hardware he was using (CPU, Video card, etc.), what distribution he is running, how he installed MythTV, etc., the list might be able to point him in the direction of success, but none of that information has been forthcoming. If you want things to work out of the box, with no thought having to be put into your integration, go with MS. Keep in mind that functionality will not be added at the rate it is here. Bugs will not be addressed at the speed that you'd like to seem the resolved. You, too, can be just another drone who ponies up dollars to the Seattle Mafia that holds the whole computing industry hostage. If you want to do a little learning while you get your system working, and you're willing to do a little research and experimentation on the road towards getting your system working, stay here with us. I had been away from Linux for a few years before I started integrating my MythTV system. I'm glad I came back into the fold. I love my MythTV system (perhaps a bit too much as evidenced how much TV I've been watching lately), and I'm grateful to Isaac for developing it and to everyone that has helped to improve it. Keep up the good work, guys and gals! -----Original Message----- From: Brad Templeton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 12:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Development of mythtv Subject: Re: [mythtv] Whats wrong with myth On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 01:20:13AM -0800, Thomas M. Pluth wrote: > I'll second that. HDTV works well on my setup. Sure, and I have HDTV working too. He was a bit overbearing saying it doesn't work. But it is true that it took a lot of work to get it going, and I know that's true for a lot of people, and I would be curious to know if there was even a sizeable group who didn't encounter some level of snags to fix in making and HDTV box. What fraction of people just said "apt-get mythtv-suite" then did some basic config and had an HD box ready to go? It's often nothing to do with Myth, but instead the immaturity of the various drivers for hardware -- video cards and xvideo, tuner cards, sound drivers for multichannel sound. People have not been doing this level of high-res full motion video under linux for very long yet, and as a result there are more problems, more kinks, fewer people who have encountered your particular problem and solved it and posted the fix or work-around. Of course, if you build myth only for yourself, the problems other people have in getting it going are not relevant. If you want the system to gain more users (and developers) for either philanthropic or selfish reasons, then you have to listen to the people who announce they are walking away in frustration. If they are reasonably skilled linux users, and they walk away in frustration, it's not their fault, much as any particular error made can be seen to be their fault.
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