Isaac Richards wrote:

On Monday 21 March 2005 01:36 pm, Bryan Murphy wrote:


Isaac Richards wrote:


On Monday 21 March 2005 12:42 pm, andrew burke wrote:
The reason bugzilla's not linked on the main page is that it's been
fairly useless, in my opinion.  I get better results handling bugs posted
to the lists - better feedback from other people, it's more likely that
the reporter will actually _respond_ if more information is requested,
etc.

The main reason I started the bug tracker in the first place is because a
lot of people _insisted_ that they would help with development more if
there was a list of bugs for them to fix. To date, I don't believe a
single (external to 'main develoeprs') bug fix has come from it.


I just want to point out that this is a chicken and egg scenario.
People don't use it because it's not being used the devs.  The devs
don't use it because nobody else is submitting to it.

If you actually made a concerted effort to use bug tracking, I suspect
things would change. I know I've looked at the bug list myself only to
come to the conclusion that it was out of date and the list was a better
source of information.



It's not out of date at all.



If you want it to work, you have to consistently use it, even when it's
painful. This has consistently been my experience in my professional
career as a developer.



I'm using it as much as people submitting to it are. I don't use it for my own bugs I find, because I fix them as I find them, and going through the process of submitting a bug for myself, and then marking it as fixed immediately seems rather silly.


I wouldn't say that. I haven't programed in several years. So I have no hope if fixing most things. I have been following this list for some time so the 1st thing I did was upgrade to CVS then see If I could reproduce. I could so I submitted a full BT and -v ALL log unto bugzilla ticket #238 that was on 2/28/05. This ticket is still marked as NEW. No one emailed me asking for more info. Nothing I haven't had time to follow up or upgrade to the lastest to try and see if someone might be able to help figuire why it crashes for me. I wouldn't call that being used.

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