On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 08:23:35PM -0500, andrew burke wrote: > > Screw the users. They're getting a *lot* of *really sweet* code FOR > > FREE. They didn't have to pay Isaac or, in general, anyone else, *any > > money* for what they got. And they were made aware that the code is > > prerelease -- if in no other fashion, by the version number. > > yes, we all understand open source.
Clearly, no, you don't. > > There's an etiquette for situations like this, andrew, and you're not > > helping by encouraging those who fail to apply it. If you're not happy > > with the development model, then go ahead and fork the damn thing. > > Look, it's common courtesy to bring up issues I have before I go and just > fork the code. Forking a project can often cause lots of bad blood and > problems. I do appreciate what all the devs have put together, I just > think that things can be handled a bit differently to improve the end-user > experience. I never said what the developers have done isn't worthwhile, > but I do take issue with the way the project is being managed. I offered > to help improve that situation numerous times, and the devs seem to have > decided it isn't help they're interested in, and that's their choice. But > personally, I know I would be upset if someone forked a project I started > without at least raising the issues they had for doing so. Fine. And, like me, you sit in a difficult seat: the reason you want to fork the project is not the traditional "I've written a ton of patches, and everyone's using them and loves them, but the maintainer won't commit them", and it's much harder to get traction for a fork that way. But, you know, there are larger issues at hand here. I used to do Rocky Horror when I was (much :-) younger. And you know what the biggest problem was that we had? It wasn't cast politics. Oh, no. It was *not letting cast politics dribble out and screw up our theater relationship.* MythTV does not exist in a vacuum here, and that not-a-vacuum is getting larger every day. IME, the number of people who *are* unsatisfied with the way things are going -- leaving out for a moment the question of whether anyone at all has any *right* to be unsatisfied -- is not all that big. Are there some "problems"? Maybe. Do you have some solutions? Probably. Is your approach likely to be strategically productive? I don't think so. And *I've* been in this business for 20 years too; you may not think I'm entitled to hold opinions on it, but I sure do. Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Designer Baylink RFC 2100 Ashworth & Associates The Things I Think '87 e24 St Petersburg FL USA http://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 If you can read this... thank a system adminstrator. Or two. --me
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