On 9/10/05, J. Donavan Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nobody wrote: > > >To have a petty argument about what a PVR is and question why someone would > >want to watch live TV _without_ a buffer, was amusing to say the least. > >(it's called buffer-while-paused-only) and it works very well: > > > > > > Its a half-assed implementation that ignores one of the major pieces of > functionality _every_ other PVR has, the ability to REWIND "live" TV to > catch something you missed.
OK, I understand now that I am the only one here who holds this opinion ;-), so I'll say this one more time and then drop it. I'll reiterate that I am very happy with the way that MythTV works now and personally I do not find live TV channel changing to be unacceptably slow. My "non-techie" user group consists of my wife and 8-year old son. They both watch a lot more TV than I do, and both love MythTV. But they both also channel-surf, even after having owned a Tivo for years, and now having lived with MythTV for well over a year. Anyway, here my key observation of my wife and son: When they watch live TV, they find it natural to think that the program they are currently watching is *not* being recorded, and thus they do not expect things like pause and rewind to work. In fact, my son consistently hits the "record" button on the remote control when/if he wants to pause the program and go get a snack. Obviously, the mental model that he has built for a PVR is that it records programs, but only if you ask MythTV to do that, either via scheduling or via the record button. By the way, I think my son learned this from my wife, who did the same thing with our old Tivo, and only recently realized that there was no need to do this. So, bottom line: I don't think I am in outer space on this one. There are at least two people who find this model to be a natural one. It furthermore is a model that would not affect me (as a rather geeky technie nerdy PVR user), so it wouldn't annoy me if MythTV (or Tivo) worked this way, or had an option to work this way. And, finally, I think its implementation would be simpler than the dual-stream concept proposed by Cory and even potentially simpler than the "put timing in everywhere and shave a few ms here and there" concept. Well, I've said my piece on this topic. I'm sure it won't really have an impact on anyone here, and I don't have time to implement this myself which means I can't live up to the "put up code or shut up" maxim. But I thought it important to state the concept as clearly as possible, since it is clear that there are a lot of strong opinions on the subject of live TV, including my own. Peter _______________________________________________ mythtv-dev mailing list [email protected] http://mythtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mythtv-dev
