Now, as a security consultant, I don't know if I would go that far. Firewalls still serve the same purpose they always have: To prevent the bulk of attacks originating on the "outside" of the firewall, by limiting what traffic is permitted to pass between networks. However, a good security policy includes many layers, and so includes things like patching, hardening, monitoring and otherwise securing the other devices in the network, as well a policy to govern the way people interact with them.

What went out with the nineties is assuming that the firewall is going to do it all for you....


        --Matt

On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 00:52 -0800, Brad Templeton wrote:
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 08:28:34PM -0600, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
> Brad Templeton wrote:
> On my home network, behind firewalls, I have none of these security 
> concerns.  If it is just the address of the DB server, it shouldn't be 
> hard to do Zeroconf or even a simple broadcast as you suggest.  I'll 
> have to put this on my list of things to do...

Just about any security consultant today will admit, either in confidence
or in public, that firewalls are a really, really bad idea about how to do
security.    It's a very rare network (though not nonexistent) that
doesn't have at least one machine subject to compromise through any
number of channels (for example, it's a laptop and it goes outside
the firewall from time to time, or it runs Windows) and that means the
whole network is vulnerable.

Firewalls are a 1990s design.   You put them up if you have no other choice,
or (like many of us, including me) because you're lazy and not that worried,
but when you design a new system today, one for other people to use, you
should not design it based on the idea of a firewalled network.  It would
not be responsible to the users you are coding for.
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