Hi,
Gavin Hurlbut wrote:
First off, it's not "my" software. Secondly, bitching and complaining when you obviously haven't done your research (such as reading the -dev mailing list to see that the DVB Patch had been committed to CVS), and haven't kept current with CVS... That's not a problem with the software. That's a problem with the user.
I don't agree with that. Software guidelines and research about software engineering tells a complete other view. They say the problem user does not exist. (I know that this is a very provoking statement)
I cannot be the duty of the user to read a complete mailing list to get a software running.
The duty of an user is to read documenation like a handbook, an usage guide, a howto or anything else in this form.
That was what I have done to run my mythtv and my experience was that documentation had lots of holes or obselete parts. Especially DVB setup is not described very well.
Btw the best software in the intention of software enginering is intuitional usable software, because documentation is not needed there (but I always say, continue your dream).
After some hints from mailing lists to http://www.digitalregime.com/mythdvb/ I get my mythtv running.
Personally for open source projects I don't write back to people and critize their attitude. This always frights users off. It is clear in such situation that some people are frustrated because of bad documentation (yes the problem is very well know by an open source project I'm development member), but nobody of us writes (or should write) such mails to the people. We try to help them... and come on this is a user list and not a development list ;-)
If you get lots of mails like that, perhaps it is time to do something against that? When nothing will be done until I get some more time , I will to try to write a complete howto, but I cannot do that without help. Because imho a change here is needed.
So don't complain about attitude, my original post was more from the frustration and anger about the software and that is not ok, but your reaction was also not ok for my opinion. I did not offend you (I hope so) in my original post, so why have you done that to me or the cattles? They cannot answer back, I can ;-).
Btw. another persons has told me why -march=pentiumpro and I can understand that. Perhaps if you want to talk to optimization guru go to http://www.fefe.de. He had done a very good presentation about gcc optimization a few years ago :-).
Cheers, Michael Obster -- mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.obster.org
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