--- Scott Francis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 09:14, Cook, Garry wrote:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 01:44, Jack Trout wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Sure it is. If I leave my car in your
> driveway with the keys in the
> > >>> ignition and the car running and you decide to
> take it for a
> > >>> "test-drive" can I report my car stolen?
> > >>>
> > >>> Just because they didn't put the filter on
> doesn't give someone the
> > >>> justification to be able to help themselves to
> whatever they want.
> > >>> They still own the content.
> > >>
> > >> IF you left your car on my property with the
> keys in it etc, I would
> > >> still have to perform the action of entering
> your car and driving
> > >> away with it. but I would be within my legal
> right to have it towed
> > >> away...
> > >>
> > >> What I am saying is you have content being
> delievered to your lines
> > >> you cannot control without performing something
> illegal IE climbing
> > >> the pole and hooking up a filter that is the
> Cable Companies domain.
> > >>
> > >> If your television is passively on the wiring
> in your house and the
> > >> wiring is recieving cable its a grey area,
> because you are not paying
> > >> for that specifically, but you actions did not
> cause the cable to be
> > >> there, if everyone is self reporting you could
> call the cable company
> > >> and complain about why are these annoying
> channels interfering with
> > >> your normal Snow Pattern you normally get, But
> if you find 20$ in
> > >> your mail box, do you call the post office
> pissed off because you
> > >> got money?
> > >>
> > >> Its the Cable companies job to install and
> block thier services
> > >> correctly, if they dont the consumer cant be
> blamed, if the consumer
> > >> has made no action to obtain these services,
> and has not requested
> > >> these services.
> > >>
> > >> But saying we are advocating illegal actions no
> one has said go to
> > >> the pole and rip the filters off, no one has
> said run a line from
> > >> your neighbors house, no one has suggested
> running a cablebox not
> > >> provided by the cable company, so I dont see
> how anyone is
> > >> advocating illegal activity
> > >
> > > I understand your point, but the issue is you
> make the conscious
> > > decision to take the signal that doesn't belong
> to you and that you
> > > don't have rights to because you haven't paid
> for them.
> > >
> > > According to the law there are three types of
> lost property:
> > >
> > > Mislaid - I placed something somewhere and I
> forgot that I put it
> > > there. Whoever finds it at this point becomes
> the legal caretaker of
> > > the product until I come and claim it. They
> have no ownership
> > > rights/title to it and are responsible for the
> upkeep of it.
> > >
> > > Lost - I had an item but now I cannot find it
> and don't know where it
> > > is. The finder of it has legal title of it
> against the world to
> > > everyone except the true owner.
> > >
> > > Abandoned - I had an item but now I decided I
> don't want it so I just
> > > discarded it. The finder of the item has legal
> title of it
> > > against the
> > > world and the true owner.
> > >
> > > In this case the cable company's ownership is
> definitely mislaid.
> > > Because of this you have no ownership rights or
> title to it
> > > and in fact
> > > you are responsible for making sure that it is
> kept in good shape and
> > > not used an any way contrary to how the owner
> would want.
> > > According to
> > > the law you have the responsibility of telling
> the cable company about
> > > the service being given to you. Once you have
> done this you are now
> > > absolved from any legal wrongdoings. By not
> doing so you
> > > remain liable.
> > >
> > > Scott
> >
> > With 99 channels, how do I know which ones the
> cable company has
> > 'mislaid'? I pay my bill directly from my checking
> account, so I don't
> > see any paperwork in the mail stating which
> channels I have requested
> > and which I have not. If I'm using MythTV, I may
> not even notice what
> > channels I have. But if I'm recording something
> from any channel on
> > which it is found, am I now breaking the law if it
> comes from one of the
> > 'mislaid' channels?
> >
> > Garry W. Cook, CCNA
> > Network Infrastructure Manager
> > MACTEC, Inc. - http://www.mactec.com/
> > 303.273.5050 (Office) - 720.220.1862 (Mobile)
> >
> >
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> Ignorance might be bliss, but if you didn't know
> which channels where
> 'mislaid' then we really wouldn't be having the
> conversation concerning
> whether or not you were stealing.
>
> Scott
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I have a friend living in North Carolina who was
paying for a cable modem but not TV. He kept having
troubles with his Internet cutting out. When he had
the cable guy come out to look at it he said the
filter was the problem and he removed it giving my
friend free basic cable...
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