On 5/19/05, Philip Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 19 May 2005 19:09, Nick wrote:
> > I'd also *never* recommend exporting a DVB file to mp4 (of which DivX,
> > XVid etc all are) and then re-exporting to mp4 again.
> 
> I was automatically transcoding all my recordings to mpeg4 to save disk space
> while they were in mythtv, then later either deleted them or transcoding to
> xvid to put on CD or something. I've done this for many other dvb recordings
> and haven't had any problems before (and I was always very happy with the
> quality of the xvid I ended up with).

I guess if the bitrate is high enough for the transcode, the reduction
in quality may not be noticeable, especially on a TV screen. I have
seen in the past that repeated re-encoding can introduce obvious
artefacts in the picture, especially in higher motion scenes.

> > You will lose a
> > lot of quality in the process. The ideal process would be to take the
> > DVB file, "fix" it if there are errors in the streams (there usually
> > are in my UK recorded DVB files), make the cuts (using lossless GOP
> > editing), and then export it to the final XVid file. This should
> > ensure the highest quality output, and is likely to be much quicker
> > also, as the intermediate mp4 is not used.
> 
> This sounds good, as I've stopped the automatic myth transcoding now anyway.
> So Program-X is what you use to "fix" the dvb file? Do you also use that for
> the cuts? (I saw it has a cutlist feature)

ProjectX! I actually use a program called Cuttermaran on my Win2K
workstation for editing, and haven't looked into the ProjectX cutlist
feature. I prob will now though, just to see how it goes. In either
case, you want to be able to do GOP-accurate cutting, as this enables
the MPEG2 stream to be broken up without needing to re-encode any of
the video, and you may just lose a couple of frames if you can on
non-I-frame boundaries.

> I'm just wondering how myth is able to play the 'broken' transcoded mpeg4 file
> so well - no a/v sync issues at all.

If the file is still in the 'nuv' format (after the DVB is
transcoded), that may go some way in explaining the sync still
working. I think once the file is output into a non-nuv wrapped
format, the sync issues may become obvious. I'm probably wrong though!

Nick
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