That's why I was specifically mentioning the older Pundit, not the -R. The older Pundit also has better/easier support for the onboard video card and such. It only supports only up to 533MHz FSB, but if you're only using it for frontend, it'll be plenty. If you're in US, I believe zipzoomfly.com still has some in stock. Get the CPU elsewhere, though.

I don't know the exact size difference, but I was able to fit in AverMedia M179(PVR 250 clone) and an older bttv card in my Pundit-R. Took about 20 minutes and stubbed fingers, but it's in there.

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On Wed, 13 Jul 2005, Mark Knecht wrote:

On 7/13/05, Reza Naima <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
i'm currently using an x-box which seems grossly underpowered.  does
anyone have any suggestions for a good cheap front-end-only box?
Something that's good looking.  I've got an hdtv w/ vga&dvi inputs.

thanks,
reza


As John mentioned I like my Pundit-Rs. I have 4 of them. Very nice.
Reasonable quiet, but not silent. The only problem I'm having with
MythTV right now is that I cannot keep the StreamZap remotes I bought
working with Myth. The work for a day and then stop. I think this is
more an lirc problem but it's an issue you might want to think about
before you buy.

Anyway, I own 4 and I'd buy 4 more today if I needed to, but ONLY for
frontend ONLY. The PVR-xxx cards do not fit in them easily so they are
of no value to me as backend machines.

SATA performance is low right now.

Cheers,
Mark
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