On Aug 1, 2005, at 12:52 PM, Donavan Stanley wrote:
Your stated goal was HDTV playback.  Given that you're most likely
going to be playing back HD content using Myth not xine then it stands
to reason you'd actually test using Myth.

But seeing as I don't yet have a HDTV capture card yet I ended up using 1920x1080i samples. One was from the pchdtv.com site and the other was a custom made 1080i mpeg2 demo with full 5.1 sound. A third sample was a LotRclip2.mpg clip which can be found via google.

It may be possible that the Myth Internal video player with xvmc can
provide better quality deinterlace and post processing than Xine +
xv. Obviously a deeper understanding of how Myth works with xvmc and
more objective tests are needed.

There is *no* post processing using XvMC.  Not with xine nor with
Myth.  It's decoded by the hardware and displayed (to put it simply),
things like kerneldeint, denoise3d and the like will not work with
XvMC.  Myth does support the use of bob under XvMC as well as a full
OSD which is why I suggested testing with Myth not xine.

Based on available XvMC information that's what I understood the case to be. So really it shouldn't matter so much if I'm using Xine + XvMC with bob deinterlacing or Myth Internal Player with XvMC. In both cases the output should have very similar results. It would be nice to actually test this situation but from what you describe I don't think I should expect much difference?

As I mentioned in my first post, I wasn't worried so much about the lack of OSD when using Xine + XvMC. I know that Myth Internal Video player + XvMC works with OSD as I've heard all about the grayscale OSD issues. Chances are I would use Xine + xv with post processing for DVD playback and stick to Myth Internal Video player + XvMC for 1080i streams

I did test Xine + XvMC with both one-field and bob deinterlace methods and it was clear that bob deinterlacing produced better results for my 1080i test clips and on 480i DVD sources. I'm glad to hear the Myth Internal Video player supports bob with XvMC. I also noted in the Xine docs that there is an apparent work around for grayscale OSDs with XvMC. This wasn't something I tried as I was mostly focused on deinterlace quality and artifacts that might be seen when using XvMC.

Have the Myth developers considered adding the OSD grayscale work around from Xine to the Myth Internal Player or is that not something which is feasible?

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