Richard Bronosky wrote:

Ryan Steffes wrote:

The trick of the whole situation is that the only protections that even kinda work are the ones that use bad data. However, it can't be TOO bad or you wouldn't be able to play it at all, and the amount of peopel who watch movies/listen to music on their computers is too large a segment to ignore.

... Even the best CD copy protection isn't going to stop people from connecting line-out to line-in -- old school tape recorder style.

Ditto for DVDs, it's not that hard to play your DVD out to PVR in. Standard formats just can't be protected too much or they become useless, and you aren't going to sell a new standard to people who are very happy with the old standard. No one is going to be able to force everyone to change their TV, stereo equipment, computer hardware, car stereo, radios, boomboxes, dvd players, VHS players, and put special DRM chips in everything, including ALL speakers and microphones and video cameras. That's what you'd have to do to keep any copies from being made ever.

Don't be so sure. The EFF may have won a battle with the "delay" of the broadcast flag, but don't think that means we've won the DRM war. Playback of "premium content" on Microsoft's next OS (currently called Vista, unless MS decides it's easier to change the name than to pay off the 10 or so companies sueing them for the name) is even more constrained than playback would be under the broadcast flag. IMHO, it was a brilliant move by the MPAA/RIAA to forget about trying to push something through US law--which would only apply to a small fraction of the world population--and instead make Microsoft--de facto standards body of the world--the primary enforcer of content protection.

Vista includes "Output Content Protection" (OCP), which is nicely summarized by MS at http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/stream/output_protect.mspx . If you read the whitepaper available at the link, you'll notice all the nefarious schemes that OCP incorporates--down-res'ing content output over analog links (VGA), "fuzzing" the video output when connected via digital link (DVI) to a device that does not support HDCP/HDMI (i.e. most (all?) computer monitors in use today--meaning any money you spend on a monitor is wasted, so there's your excuse to buy that HDCP-enabled HDTV), encrypting the data as it's transmitted over the PCIe bus to the graphics card, and similar stuff for audio (some of the details of the audio protections are still to be determined).

The scary part is that there's nobody to oversee the proper application of these restrictions. The entire system--from the design and implementation of the protection scheme to the decision about what constitutes acceptable use and even the decision to revoke licenses/protection scheme that have been compromised--is in the hands of corporations who have a vested interest in limiting what we can do with their content. (OK, the FCC was bought out by the industry, and did not/would not have made a good consumer-rights watchdog, but at least the US government has many other arms--some of which were willing to listen to consumer feedback regarding the broadcast flag.)

The OCP relies on MS Windows Media formats (audio and video), including the Windows Media licensing scheme (which involves downloading licenses from the Internet). The player is embedded within the OS--at a level below the user application level--so every player has the same quality--that quality MS provides--and applications only put up a "remote control" interface to be used to pass commands to the player. Couple that with the "Trusted Platform Module Service" in Vista ( http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/pcdesign/TPM_secure.mspx ), and it's quite likely this content will not be playable on any system other than Vista and "closed-box" consumer-embedded devices (i.e. set-top HD-DVD/BD-R0M players, set-top cable/satellite boxes, etc.). Since MS has already gotten the self-proclaimed DVD standards body (the DVD Forum) to require support for MS WMV (the VC-1 CODEC, formerly known as VC-9) in HD-DVD, and since Blu-Ray needed to do likewise to compete with HD-DVD, there's a good chance that it will be hard to find any content that doesn't use this type of protection.

The sad (funny?) part is that all these suckers buying Microsoft Windows Media Center Edition PC's are getting systems that won't be able to play any content in about 2 years. And the reason they won't work is Microsoft, the company that's knowingly selling obsoleted systems at inflated prices today.

There are two saving graces... The whitepaper constantly refers to the need for obfuscation and secrecy of code (which is impossible--if it's digital, it's vulnerable) and the scheme will affect all users of future MS operating systems. Therefore, people outside the US--people who aren't constrained by the Digital Millenium Copyright Act--will have ample reason to work on compromising the scheme. (Since the broadcast flag was US-only, compromising it really only made sense to someone in the US, but that person would be forbidden by the DMCA from even attempting such compromise.)

HDMI... all future video out will be similar to it. Shortly after HD-DVD is defacto, DVDs will no longer be made. All HD-DVD players will only output over a protected method... Analog cable too will disappear and all the new cable and satellite receivers will also use protected outputs... Then this mailing list will be discussions about the kinds of file servers, gaming boxes and home automation/video surveillance machines that people are converting their PVRs into.

It's sad, but it is coming.  Pessimistic?  No, informed.

Yep!  I agree completely.

Mike
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