On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:55:00 -0700, Michael T. Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The difference there is probably that the $50 "grabber" is exactly
that--a frame grabber.  It dumps raw frames to the CPU and the CPU uses
software to encode them (for Myth, into a NuppelVideo container in
RTJPEG (for lowest-processor usage) or MPEG-4 (for smallest files) format).

You might be right. Or maybe there were tuners in there that I just didn't notice. Like, here's a $60 card:

http://www.provantage.com/buy-7aver026-ultratv-1500-mce-xp-mpeg2-encoder-avermedia-video-capture-tuner-multr1500-shopping.htm

I guess it's also a tuner. (I was looking for grabber/encoder sans tuner so I was probably just not seeing.)

Anyone use an external capture/converter like this one:

http://store.yahoo.com/compusb/usb20mphavic.html

I would think that usb2.0 wouldn't have the needed bandwidth.

As far as the rebates go, watch CompUSA, Circuit City, etc.  They
typically have a good rebate every couple of weeks (none this week,
though).  I'm guessing (assuming you're in the US) Labor Day weekend
will be the time to buy.

I would, but I'm allergic to rebates. Or they're allergic to me. Whatever, I never get the money back, so I tend not to buy things with rebates unless they're in-store/instant.

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