Quoting Mike Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Quoting Björn Svartengren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Dewey Smolka wrote:

I was a bit curious though when you mentioned businesses selling
pre-built Myth systems and Myth accessories. I've seen systems for
sale on ebay and such, and have seen some pretty poorly disguised Myth
systems sold through dodgy web sites, but am unaware of any
(legitimate) company making a real go at it.

Selling and servicing Myth systems is something I've had in mind for a
while, but I've been put off by a number of concerns. One of the
larger problems -- program data -- has been addressed by LxM, but I'm
still terrified of running into IP issues.

Namely, whatever my opinion, DMCA is Federal Law here in the Land of
the Free (TM), and Myth is full of potential violations. Yes, I know
it's ridiculous, but there's no way (that I'm aware of, at least) to
play DVDs, archive DVDs, play or achive copy-protected non-CDs, or
record protected broadcast content on Linux without violating this
law. In addition, because of the recent Grokster decision, a seller of
Myth could potentially be held liable if someone records a TV show
with a Myth and then sticks it on the internet.


MythiC.TV sels a pre installed system they call Dragon, link to it here:
http://mythic.tv/product_info.php?products_id=44

While much of this is specific to the US, I'm just wonderin g if you
know how people are getting around this or protecting themselves from
it. I have absolute confidence that Myth would win if these things
were ever tried in court, but I don't have the time or money to be the
test case.


As you sayed most of the problems you mention are only a problem in
US, many other places
around the world have specific rules permitting backup copying of
software/movies/music for
personal use.

Anyway, I didn't mean to ramble on at you, but just to congratulate
you on a job well done.

Cheers,
 Svarten


Hi,

Thanks for the feedback. I now have the persentation available online for
download at
http://www.londoncrime.org/presentation

I claim no sort of copyright or any of that rubbish on any of this,
so feel free
to re-cycle/re-use.

I'm at work at the moment, so will respond to the questions raised when I get
home

Cheers

Mike



Hi

As Bjorn said, the US pre-built system can be found at:
http://mythic.tv/product_info.php?products_id=44

This was also the company I had in mind when I was talking about
web-sites being
set up to specifically address the hardware requirements of Myth users.

Slashdot ran an article in '04 about an Aussie company that was also shipping
pre-built systems:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/25/2222240

I was obviously addressing the UK market in the presentation, and I'm
not aware
of anything that I use that is a legal problem, except possibly for one thing.
I *think* that there may be a question of my right to copy my recordings to my
PSP (for me only and no-one else). However, if this is true, then every single
one of these products is also illegal:
http://www.empiredirect.co.uk/content/products/list.asp?subdept=dvdhddrecorder
because they allow you to shift your recordings from the hard drive to a DVD.

Anyway, thanks for the positive feedback

Kind Regards

Mike
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