Johnathon Meichtry wrote:

If your DVD-ROM drive in your PC has the DVD logo on it then I imagine you are using an official licensed DVD player and the manufacturer should have paid the approriate royalties to the DVD licensing group.

Licensed with the DVD FLLC (DVD Format/Logo Licensing Corporation - http://www.dvdfllc.co.jp and http://www.dvdfllc.co.jp/nolise/dvdlogo2.htm ) but not with the DVD CCA (DVD Copy Control Association - http://www.dvdcca.org/ and http://www.dvdcca.org/css/ ). The DVD CCA license is the one required to play back CSS-encrypted material. (Considering how many licenses a DVD player requires, it's amazing they're affordable at all. Especially when you consider some of those licenses mean nothing. The DVD FLLC is licensing the use of the DVD Format/Logo for material that complies with the DVD format established by the DVD Forum. But, the DVD Forum is a /self-appointed/ administrator of the DVD format. Wouldn't it be nice to vote yourself in charge of something and start charging license fees for the use of that something.)

The software you use to decrypt and play it is a different story altogether i.e. legal vs. illegal use of deCSS etc.

And the use of deCSS is only illegal (in the US--and unlicensed in other countries (which may mean illegal in those countries, too)) because deCSS is not a DVD CCA-licensed software product.

There is also a very very big difference between ripping DVD's to put in your own Myth library and ripping to share with everyone else.

Ethically, yes. Legally (in the US), it's still a federal felony offense because you are circumventing technological measures designed to protect copyrighted material--a direct violation of the DMCA. Too bad ethics have little to do with legality.

My advice is not to be shy and aggresively rip all your DVD's and get them into your Myth library as it totally changes the whole experience. But never share them and make sure the computer where you host your ripped mpgs are totally cut off from the net i..e show intent that you are doing it for the right reasons.

If you remember that you own the physical media but not the content and to always look out for the interests of the copyright holder then you pretty much can't go wrong. Thats my 2 cents worth anyway.

Good advice, but it doesn't change the legality of the act... ;) Of course, I've never played a DVD on my Myth box because doing so would be illegal, but if I had, I would agree with you that it makes watching DVD movies a better experience because my Myth box gives me full control over playback (including timestretch, post-processing quality, picture correction, etc.) and the picture I get on my 67" 1080p TV is^H^Hwould be much better than that I get from any other DVD player I've ever seen.

Horray for mplayer/mencoder/vobcopy/decss/mythtv and all the other fantastic tools that have totally changed the way my children view all their DVD's "on-demand" in any room of the house.

Here!  Here!


Johnathon


----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Adeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 12:27 AM
Subject: Re: [mythtv-users] RE: Problems with DVD rip


On Wednesday 23 November 2005 13:14, Michael T. Dean wrote:

Alex Vishnev wrote:
>Thanks for the advice. I did not know that MADAGASCAR was DRM protected.

Technically, any CSS-protected DVD is DRM-protected, and decrypting that
DVD on anything other than a licensed DVD player is a federal felony
offense in the US (Digital Millenium Copyright Act)...

Mike


Civil disobedience. It worked for our founding fathers (subsequently made
illegal by our "elected" officials).

Steve
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