On Sunday 15 January 2006 16:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:21:16 -0500 > > From: "Tom E. Craddock Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Jens Baumeister wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > since the LiveTV changes seem to lead to questions again and again > > > (and sometimes to flamewars), I volunteer to write an FAQ about it. > > > > > > However, while I do know how things are currently working, I'm not > > > 100% sure about the planned state for the 0.19 release. (Esp. from > > > the user perspective: What setting are planned, etc.) I'd be > > > grateful for any pointers to resources (bug tickets, list threads) > > > I can mine for further information. > > > > > > That way, we'd have a single place to point people to when the > > > question comes up again. > > > > > > Jens > > > > You mean besides the archives at gossamer-threads for the -users, > > -dev, and -commit lists? > > [Someone's volunteering to make the documentation better, and you're > actively trying to discourage him? Why? Not to mention that this > sort of documentation has to be written -sometime- as part of a user > manual, right? Presumably the end state is for the way LiveTV > operates to be documented somewhere, the proposed FAQ would be > a good start at getting that written.] > > In any event---yes, in addition to the archives. Searching archives > is a poor substitute for organized information in a central place. > The archives are huge (2400 messages/month! 14 meg/month!); poorly > organized (threads often wander); and invariably contain large amounts > of outdated information---by definition, most of it is old. Further, > it's never clear from any given message whether some later message > might obsolete it---and it's often hard to tell, since it's very hard > to prove a negative, e.g., that there -isn't- some other message/ > thread that, if only you'd used a slightly different search term, > you'd have found. People who don't also subscribe to all the lists > may not know that there's been a discussion about something, hence > won't know if they've used the wrong search term and failed to find it. > > Finally, even if you succeed in all that, searching through archives > is very time consuming compared to just reading a web page---and the > web page could have author(s) and a modification-date and a "here are > exactly the versions we're talking about and not these other versions > over here" and all sorts of other contextual data that would make > using the information a whole lot easier. If information changes > that obsoletes a wiki page, it's likely someone will update it. > If an old thread gets obsoleted, it will -never- get updated, but > it won't be obvious where the new information is. > > And regardless of whether you think that the information is > theoretically available in the archives, it clearly isn't available > enough in practice, or we wouldn't have exactly the problem that Jens > is trying to solve---namely that the list is full of people asking the > same questions about LiveTV over and over. That stuff is clearly > already in the archives, and clearly not being found. He's proposing > to save everybody a lot of time (the questioners, the answerers, those > who read the list and have to wade past the same questions a lot), and > I'd think that anyone who's offering to do this should be showered > with candy and flowers, not made to justify his actions for a > situation that's obviously chewing up peoples' time and leading > to flamewars and hard feelings.
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