Hi! Further to the below message, I wanted to have a better 
understanding of sample number limits; at the moment in my lab we are 
unable to get mzmine to open more than about 200 samples at once. 
Attempting any more gets the error message: "There is an error in the 
RAW file, please check the log file" But the same RAW files can be 
imported successfully if mzmine is restarted, so the files are not 
corrupted or anything. The log file , after the "..FINEST....Xcalibur 
2.0 interface initialized" just says "...SEVERE...Unable to open 
XCalibur RAW file".

200 samples was an improvement from about 120 samples (the previous 
limit before getting identical error messages) - when I realised that I 
just didn't have enough space on my drive for all the .scans files being 
generated in the TEMP folder mzmine was using. Having increased this to 
many GB more than needed, then I could indeed open more files. But not 
as many as I was expecting. Now, at 200 samples, I have plenty of space 
left on the drive (18GB), and I increased the JVM to the 1.3GB max for 
the 32-bit system I'm using, and it has 900 MB free when not performing 
tasks, and even when performing tasks it is not  coming close to maxing out.

So my question is, what further avenues do I have to increase the no. of 
samples - what other things are limiting the no. of samples I can open?
I have a total of 280 samples - it's really annoying to do two batches 
because then I have to do the very long-winded downstream processes 
twice, working with two separate peak lists when I just want to work 
with one within mzmine (I have to work within mzmine as far as I can 
tell because I am inspecting MSMS spectra).

A workaround would be to be able to merge two peaklists - but as far as 
I can see, I wouldn't be able to work with MSMS data from all the peaks 
on the peak lists unless I had all the raw data open in my project - 
which, as I explained above, I can't currently do.

Thanks for your time!

Chiarina Darrah






Hi Gözde,

I have never tried analyzing so many samples at once using MZmine. There 
may be a lot of places in MZmine where the code is not optimized for 
such high-scale analysis.
Also, it depends on the characteristics of your data (high vs low 
resolution, centroided vs continuous spectra etc.).
You may need more RAM than 16GB (there are computers with 1TB of RAM or 
more).
You may also split the analysis into separate batches.

Tomas


On Mar 3, 2011, at 11:07 PM, Gözde Gürdeniz wrote:

 > We have been processing the UPLC-QTOF samples with MZmine and it has 
worked pretty until now J
 >
 > However now, I have huge number of samples 5000. I tried to increase 
the RAM that MZmine is using according to capacity of my computer
(16 GB RAM that I have). I could manage to process only 1500 samples. I 
am working on windows and I guess I can increase the amount of virtual 
memory for the use of MZmine by Linux.
 >
 > Do you think I should go for Linux or is there any other way to solve 
this problem of 5000 samples or it does not seem realistic?
 >
 >
 >
 > M. Sc, PhD-student
 > Gözde Gürdeniz,
 > Group of Preventive Nutrition,
 > Department of Human Nutrition,
 > University of Copenhagen,
 > Rolighedsvej 30, DK-1958 Frederiksberg
 > Copenhagen-Denmark
 >
 > E-mail: gozg@...
 > Cell Phone: (+45) 29176389
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