Hi,

For the record, "Rsession" did the trick. With some little drawbacks - fixable small ones - for UNIX platforms. I'll see that later. Here's a release working theoretically on all platforms with Java 1.7 or higher:

https://sourceforge.net/p/mzmine/code/HEAD/tree/branches/gboaglio-experimental/target/MZmine-2.11-EEE-release-20141203.zip

Cheers
Gauthier


On 12/03/2014 05:17 AM, Tomas Pluskal wrote:
Hi Gauthier,

I think another option to consider seriously is Renjin. Although Renjin in its current development state does not really support installation of packages, we could simply copy & paste the relevant functions from the existing R packages. If that works, no configuration or platform-specific hacks would be necessary, as Renjin is pure java.

Cheers,

Tomas






On Dec 3, 2014, at 12:44, Gauthier Boaglio <gauthier.boag...@gmail.com <mailto:gauthier.boag...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I just went through "rSession" code again and a bit further, and I might have spoken too fast. Mainly classes "Rsession" and "RserverConf" seems to speak about things like "*windows multi-session emulation*", playing with ports, etc. (Sounds like exactly what I was trying to describe previously, isn't it?). I'll have a new fresh eye on it tomorrow (that could avoid to reinvent the wheel). 5AM over here...

Cheers
Gauthier


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: [Mzmine-devel] R usage in MZmine - What about replacing JRIengine? - Not working well under Windows.
Date:   Wed, 03 Dec 2014 04:29:34 +0100
From:   Gauthier Boaglio <gauthier.boag...@gmail.com>
To:     mzmine-devel@lists.sourceforge.net



Hi Tomas,

Yes I have, and it really doesn't help that much, that is why I preferred implementing my own minimalistic class. I might change my mind at some point, but I don't believe adding this dependency corresponds to an actual need.

Otherwise, I have some news about Rserve (quite bad ones). It relies on unix features and is not able, under windows, to 'fork' instances like unix systems do. This is quite deceiving. But, I am implementing a workaround: windows specific solution to mimic processes forking. We'll see if it is convincing once I have it working. Since we still can run several instances of Rserve main server under windows (despite we cannot use the great UNIX features), the idea is:

Creating a pool of a finite number of warm instances of Rserve - 8 is a good number I suppose, ready for use (and started at the application startup, or at the very first time R is required). Those instances would have to be mapped on dedicated/respective ports (one for each worker of the pool). Those port should be chosen among "IANA Registered but marked as UNASSIGNED ports, if I'm correct. As long as we don't need more workers than the default warm ones, we manage the pool, reserving and releasing them on demand. If the amount of concurrent R tasks required increases, we still can scale the size (number of active/alive workers) of the pool. When no more R task is running, we can then scale back to normal, and put the default number of warm workers to sleep.

I am a bit tired, so my apologies if my English is getting odd, but I hope that what I am telling here is clear enough. So, to make it short: Rserve is not ideal (well, it is, but windows isn't). At least, I found nothing better anywhere. A workaround can be concidered, which I am going to implement for my own needs anyway, so you'll have the occasion to test it quite soon.

I'll check again if "Rsession" doesn't provides the features I am working on already, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't.

So, what do you say? To my opinion, with a good handy wrapper, all this could be viable... If you have any idea or suggestion about all this. Please tell me such that I can integrate into my reflections.

Cheers
Gauthier




On 12/03/2014 01:54 AM, Tomas Pluskal wrote:
Hi Gauthier,

Just wondering - have you checked the Rsession project? (https://code.google.com/p/rsession/) I don't have any personal experience with it, but it seems to contain the code to run the Rserve from java.

Cheers,

Tomas


On Dec 3, 2014, at 3:43, Gauthier Boaglio <gauthier.boag...@gmail.com <mailto:gauthier.boag...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

My apologies to those who tried to test (hope none of you actually) the release linked above under Windows. This is working under Linux, but not (completely) under Windows.
Sorry about that. I try to fix it ASAP and keep you informed.

Cheers
Gauthier



On 12/02/2014 11:47 AM, Gauthier Boaglio wrote:
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-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: R usage in MZmine - What about replacing JRIengine to get multi-threading support?
Date:     Tue, 02 Dec 2014 11:36:55 +0100
From:     Gauthier Boaglio <gauthier.boag...@gmail.com>
To: mzmine-devel@lists.sourceforge.net


Hi everyone,

I begun to use Rserve (multi-threaded), instead of JRIengine (singleton / mono-threaded), in my personal experimental branch and really think we could replace JRIengine (which does not take advantage of parallel tasks processing, as you know), by the former. I released a version using Rserve (restricted to the "Baseline Correction Module"). If you want to give it a try, here it is:
https://sourceforge.net/p/mzmine/code/HEAD/tree/branches/gboaglio-experimental/target/MZmine-2.11-EEE-release-20141128.zip

Main points:
-----------

* Requirements:
  ------------

No changes in "startMZmine" script (we just need to locate "R_HOME", as usual). The only requirement is to have the "Rserve" R package installed. Then it is ran through a simple R command, looking like:
library(Rserve);Rserve(debug=TRUE/FALSE, args="--RS-enable-control")
# Where '--RS-enable-control' is used and mandatory to enable sending "SIGKILL/SIGTERM" to the Rserve instances
        # (when we need to abort a blocking 'eval' being performed)
(Note: we already had to install "rJava" for using JRI). So this does not stand for a big additional constraint for the user.

    => The Rserve runnable (server app.) comes with the said R package

Note: I believe we could even simplify the "startMZmine" workflow, by first trying to detect the R location automatically. (the environment variables to be assigned in the script would be used only as a fallback in case the detection failed)

        That would more or less look like (See: RUtilities.java) :

            public static String getRexecutablePath() {

                String osname = System.getProperty("os.name");
if (osname != null && osname.length() >= 7 && osname.substring(0,7).equals("Windows")) { LOG.log(Level.INFO, "Windows: query registry to find where R is installed ...");
                    String installPath = null;
                    try {
Process rp = Runtime.getRuntime().exec("reg query HKLM\\Software\\R-core\\R"); StreamHog regHog = new StreamHog(rp.getInputStream(), true);
                        rp.waitFor();
                        regHog.join();
                        installPath = regHog.getInstallPath();
                    } catch (Exception rge) {
LOG.log(Level.SEVERE, "ERROR: unable to run REG to find the location of R: "+rge);
                        return null;
                    }
                    if (installPath == null) {
LOG.log(Level.SEVERE, "ERROR: canot find path to R. Make sure reg is available and R was installed with registry settings.");
                        return null;
                    }
return installPath + "\\bin\\R.exe <smb://bin//R.exe>";
                }

File f = new File("/Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Resources/bin/R");
                if (f.exists()) return f.getPath();
                f = new File("/usr/local/lib/R/bin/R");
                if (f.exists()) return f.getPath();
                f = new File("/usr/lib/R/bin/R");
                if (f.exists()) return f.getPath();
                f = new File("/sw/bin/R");
                if (f.exists()) return f.getPath();
                f = new File("/usr/common/bin/R");
                if (f.exists()) return f.getPath();
                f = new File("/opt/bin/R");
                if (f.exists()) return f.getPath();


                return null;

            }


* The way it works:
  ----------------

Rserve is a server (implements a communication protocol with R) and, to keep it simple, it should be run on localhost and default port 6311 (this is something that should probably be mentioned to the user, for security and eventually firewall configuration reasons). Each time we create a new "RConnection", the main instance of Rserve starts a new child process.
    - We can store the PID of this instance for later termination.
- We can run asynchronously as many instances as we want (as long as we take care to close/terminate the ones that are no longer used).

=> I already implemented a basic wrapper (that should be enhanced) for those operations:
https://sourceforge.net/p/mzmine/code/HEAD/tree/branches/gboaglio-experimental/src/main/java/net/sf/mzmine/util/RSession.java
        (Simplified version of the class in attachment).

=> The code for starting Rserve main server instance is located in "RUtilities.java" for now:
https://sourceforge.net/p/mzmine/code/HEAD/tree/branches/gboaglio-experimental/src/main/java/net/sf/mzmine/util/RUtilities.java

=> USAGE (a sample use case can be found in the BaselineCorrectionTask.java):

Basically, evaluating one or more R commands is done as follows:

            - Create and open a new session:
// (This will automatically start Rserve, if not already running, and open a new slave instance for this task)
                String[] reqPackages = new String[] { "ptw" };
                RSession rSession = new RSession(reqPackages);
                rSession.open();

- Check the additional packages necessary to perform the commands for the given session: // Returns the first failing required package name or null if successful String missingPackage = rSession.loadRequiredPackages();

            - Do some R evaluations, such as:
                // Set chromatogram.
rSession.assignDoubleArray("chromatogram", chromatogram);
                // Calculate baseline.
rSession.eval("baseline <- asysm(chromatogram," + smoothing + "," + asymmetry + ")");
                baseline = rSession.collectDoubleArray("baseline");

- Release the session (closes the socket connection for the session and ends the related Rserve slave process):
                rSession.close(false);

Note: We should also check, at some point, if no more tasks are requiring Rserve, and shutdown the server. (it will be restarted the next time we use a MZmine feature requiring R anyway...)

* Performance considerations:
  --------------------------

Source: http://www.sciencedomain.org/download.php?f=Satman4152014BJMCS10902_1.pdf&aid=4838&type=a

The performances where good enough for what I had to do with the BaselineCorretors. So, at very first sight, this should fit the other needs (anyway, the other very few multi-threaded alternatives I gave a test where not exploitable in term of evaluation speed). May be we should/will have to consider switching between JRIengine and Rserve for some particular features). I hope not, but in any case, this is something which seems doable: as far as I tested, there is absolutely no incompatibilities between Rserve and JRI.

To make your own opinion on all this, the BaselineCorretorModule (again) allows to choose the R engine among RCaller (Online), JRIengine and Rserve. Just run the MZmine version linked on top of this email, and go to "Raw data methods > Filtering > Baseline Correction"



Fill free to ask if something is unclear or if you have any further questionings.
Looking forward to your constructive comments and thoughts...

I'll be glad to help, as much as possible, with migrating to Rserve (if it turns out that this solution really is viable).

Cheers
Gauthier



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject:     Re: [Mzmine-devel] Baseline correction
Date:     Tue, 2 Dec 2014 05:15:41 +0000
From:     Tomas Pluskal <plus...@oist.jp>
To:     Gauthier Boaglio <gauthier.boag...@gmail.com>


Hi Gauthier,
Now that we released version 2.12, I think it is a good time to consider making the switch from JRI to RServe. I think it is a good idea - I don't really like the current JRI interface. It would be great if you could send a message to the devel list, where you can summarize what you found about RServe. Especially, we would like to know 1) is the initial setup and configuration going to be easier than the current one (is it necessary to edit the startMZmine script in order to use RServe?)
2) how does the actual code differ between RServe and JRI?
Thanks a lot!
Cheers,
Tomas
===============================================
Tomas Pluskal
G0 Cell Unit, Okinawa Institute of Science and Technology Graduate University
1919-1 Tancha, Onna-son, Okinawa 904-0495, Japan
WWW: https://groups.oist.jp/g0
TEL: +81-98-966-8684
Fax: +81-98-966-2890

--
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-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: R usage in MZmine - What about replacing JRIengine to get multi-threading support?
Date:   Tue, 02 Dec 2014 11:36:55 +0100
From:   Gauthier Boaglio <gauthier.boag...@gmail.com>
To:     mzmine-devel@lists.sourceforge.net



Hi everyone,

I begun to use Rserve <http://rforge.net/Rserve/> (multi-threaded), instead of JRIengine (singleton / mono-threaded), in my personal experimental branch <https://sourceforge.net/p/mzmine/code/HEAD/tree/branches/gboaglio-experimental/> and really think we could replace JRIengine (which does not take advantage of parallel tasks processing, as you know), by the former. I released a version using Rserve (/restricted to the "Baseline Correction Module"/). If you want to give it a try, here it is:

https://sourceforge.net/p/mzmine/code/HEAD/tree/branches/gboaglio-experimental/target/MZmine-2.11-EEE-release-20141128.zip <https://sourceforge.net/p/mzmine/code/HEAD/tree/branches/gboaglio-experimental/target/MZmine-2.11-EEE-release-20141126.zip>

Main points:
-----------

* Requirements:*
*   ------------
*
        No changes in "startMZmine" script*  (we just need to locate "R_HOME", 
as usual).
        The only requirement is to have the "Rserve" R package installed. Then 
it is ran through a simple R command, looking like:
                library(Rserve);Rserve(debug=TRUE/FALSE, 
args="--RS-enable-control")
                # Where '--RS-enable-control' is used and mandatory to enable sending 
"SIGKILL/SIGTERM" to the Rserve instances
                # (when we need to abort a blocking 'eval' being performed)
        (Note: we already had to install "rJava" for using JRI). So this does 
not stand for a big additional constraint for the user.

        => The Rserve runnable (server app.) comes with the said R package

        *Note:*  I believe we could even simplify the*"startMZmine" workflow*, 
by first trying to detect the R location automatically.
                (the environment variables to be assigned in the script would 
be used only as a fallback in case the detection failed)

                That would more or less look like (See:RUtilities.java  
<https://sourceforge.net/p/mzmine/code/HEAD/tree/branches/gboaglio-experimental/src/main/java/net/sf/mzmine/util/RUtilities.java>)
 :

                        public static String getRexecutablePath() {
                
                                String osname = System.getProperty("os.name");
                                if (osname != null && osname.length() >= 7 && 
osname.substring(0,7).equals("Windows")) {
                                        LOG.log(Level.INFO, "Windows: query registry 
to find where R is installed ...");
                                        String installPath = null;
                                        try {
                                                Process rp = 
Runtime.getRuntime().exec("reg query HKLM\\Software\\R-core\\R");
                                                StreamHog regHog = new 
StreamHog(rp.getInputStream(), true);
                                                rp.waitFor();
                                                regHog.join();
                                                installPath = 
regHog.getInstallPath();
                                        } catch (Exception rge) {
                                                LOG.log(Level.SEVERE, "ERROR: unable 
to run REG to find the location of R: "+rge);
                                                return null;
                                        }
                                        if (installPath == null) {
                                                LOG.log(Level.SEVERE, "ERROR: canot 
find path to R. Make sure reg is available and R was installed with registry 
settings.");
                                                return null;
                                        }
                                        return installPath + "\\bin\\R.exe  
<smb://bin//R.exe>";
                                }
                
                                File f = new 
File("/Library/Frameworks/R.framework/Resources/bin/R");
                                if (f.exists()) return f.getPath();
                                f = new File("/usr/local/lib/R/bin/R");
                                if (f.exists()) return f.getPath();
                                f = new File("/usr/lib/R/bin/R");
                                if (f.exists()) return f.getPath();
                                f = new File("/sw/bin/R");
                                if (f.exists()) return f.getPath();
                                f = new File("/usr/common/bin/R");
                                if (f.exists()) return f.getPath();
                                f = new File("/opt/bin/R");
                                if (f.exists()) return f.getPath();
                
                
                                return null;
                
                        }

* The way it works:
   ----------------

        Rserve is a server (implements a communication protocol with R) and, to 
keep it simple, it should be run on localhost and default
        port 6311 (this is something that should probably be mentioned to the 
user, for*security and eventually firewall configuration reasons*).
        Each time we create a new "RConnection", the main instance of Rserve 
starts a new child process.
        - We can store the PID of this instance for later termination.
        - We can run asynchronously as many instances as we want (as long as we 
take care to close/terminate the ones that are no longer used).

        => I already implemented a basic wrapper (that should be enhanced) for 
those operations:
                
https://sourceforge.net/p/mzmine/code/HEAD/tree/branches/gboaglio-experimental/src/main/java/net/sf/mzmine/util/RSession.java
                (Simplified version of the class in attachment).

        => The code for starting Rserve main server instance is located in 
"RUtilities.java" for now:
                
https://sourceforge.net/p/mzmine/code/HEAD/tree/branches/gboaglio-experimental/src/main/java/net/sf/mzmine/util/RUtilities.java

        =>*USAGE*  (a sample use case can be found in theBaselineCorrectionTask.java  
<https://sourceforge.net/p/mzmine/code/HEAD/tree/branches/gboaglio-experimental/src/main/java/net/sf/mzmine/modules/rawdatamethods/filtering/baselinecorrection/BaselineCorrectionTask.java>):

                Basically, evaluating one or more R commands is done as follows:
                        
                        - Create and open a new session:
                                // (This will automatically start Rserve, if 
not already running, and open a new slave instance for this task)
                                String[] reqPackages = new String[] { "ptw" };
                                RSession rSession = new RSession(reqPackages);
                                rSession.open();

                        - Check the additional packages necessary to perform 
the commands for the given session:
                                // Returns the first failing required package 
name or null if successful
                                String missingPackage = 
rSession.loadRequiredPackages();

                        - Do some R evaluations, such as:
                                // Set chromatogram.
                                rSession.assignDoubleArray("chromatogram", 
chromatogram);
                                // Calculate baseline.
                                rSession.eval("baseline <- asysm(chromatogram," + smoothing + 
"," + asymmetry + ")");
                                baseline = 
rSession.collectDoubleArray("baseline");           
                
                        - Release the session (closes the socket connection for 
the session and ends the related Rserve slave process):
                                rSession.close(false);
                                
                                *Note:*  We should also check, at some point, 
if no more tasks are requiring Rserve, and shutdown the server.
                                        (it will be restarted the next time we 
use a MZmine feature requiring R anyway...)
* Performance considerations:
   --------------------------
<Mail Attachment.png>
Source:http://www.sciencedomain.org/download.php?f=Satman4152014BJMCS10902_1.pdf&aid=4838&type=a
The performances where good enough for what I had to do with the 
BaselineCorretors. So, at very first sight, this should fit the other needs
(anyway, the other very few multi-threaded alternatives I gave a test where not 
exploitable in term of evaluation speed).
May be we should/will have to consider switching between JRIengine and Rserve 
for some particular features).*I hope not*, but in any case,
this is something which seems doable: as far as I tested, there is absolutely 
no incompatibilities between Rserve and JRI.

To make your own opinion on all this, the BaselineCorretorModule (again) allows 
to choose the R engine among*RCaller (Online), JRIengine and Rserve*.
Just run the MZmine version linked on top of this email, and go to "Raw data methods > 
Filtering > Baseline Correction"
<Mail Attachment.png>

Fill free to ask if something is unclear or if you have any further questionings.
Looking forward to your constructive comments and thoughts...

I'll be glad to help, as much as possible, with migrating to Rserve (if it turns out that this solution really is viable).

Cheers
Gauthier



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject:        Re: [Mzmine-devel] Baseline correction
Date:   Tue, 2 Dec 2014 05:15:41 +0000
From:   Tomas Pluskal <plus...@oist.jp>
To:     Gauthier Boaglio <gauthier.boag...@gmail.com>



Hi Gauthier,

Now that we released version 2.12, I think it is a good time to consider making the switch from JRI to RServe. I think it is a good idea - I don't really like the current JRI interface.

It would be great if you could send a message to the devel list, where you can summarize what you found about RServe. Especially, we would like to know 1) is the initial setup and configuration going to be easier than the current one (is it necessary to edit the startMZmine script in order to use RServe?)
2) how does the actual code differ between RServe and JRI?

Thanks a lot!

Cheers,

Tomas

===============================================
Tomas Pluskal
G0 Cell Unit, Okinawa Institute of Science and Technology Graduate University
1919-1 Tancha, Onna-son, Okinawa 904-0495, Japan
WWW: https://groups.oist.jp/g0
TEL: +81-98-966-8684
Fax: +81-98-966-2890


--
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CEFE - UMR 5175
1919 route de Mende
F-34293 Montpellier cedex 5

Tel: +33/0 4 67 61 32 15
Fax: +33/0 4 67 61 33 36

email:gauthier.boag...@cefe.cnrs.fr
www:http://www.cefe.cnrs.fr/en/evolutionary-ecology-and-epidemiology/gauthier-boaglio
        http://www.evolepid.org/people.php?name=boaglio






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Tel: +33/0 4 67 61 32 15
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email:gauthier.boag...@cefe.cnrs.fr
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