Tomas,

Thanks a bunch! I will start using this version right away! I appreciate your 
hard work on a fantastic piece of software.

Mike


Sent on the run...


-------- Original message --------
From: Tomas Pluskal
Date:05/07/2015 19:36 (GMT-05:00)
To: Developer discussion
Cc: Gauthier Boaglio , "Williams,Michael Thomas David"
Subject: Re: [Mzmine-devel] Problem with Batch Mode in 2.14.2

Hi Gauthier, Mike,

I performed the change as discussed. The user can now select one of the five 
options when choosing raw data files or peak lists.

Since this is a big change that affects almost all modules of MZmine, I would 
really appreciate if you guys could help me testing it - especially in the 
batch mode.

You can download the beta version of MZmine 2.15 here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zhp2nf3vq99zbj3/MZmine-2.15-beta.zip?dl=0

Please let me know if you find any problems.

Tomas



> On Apr 19, 2015, at 21:02, Gauthier Boaglio <gauthier.boag...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Hi Tomas,
>
> It certainly would ;), but this also would mean struggling back with the
> old design. As far as I remember, you changed drastically the model to
> get rid of the error prone (from dev point of view) system allowing to
> register the files generated by a given step. I'am not sure what is in
> play here, but I suppose, since you suggest a "use files generated by
> the previous step (in batch mode)" option, that you figured out a way to
> keep a clean and simple global model, and have this feature restored in
> the mean time (again, the piece of discussion we had at the time you
> changed the model). I am not up to date with the actual current model.
> Anyway, the options you are listing below would clearly make me happy
> (as a user, at least)... And this is the most important (as a dev, we
> always can adjust). Sounds like I want to have my cake and eat it, here,
> isn't... it ;)?
>
> I'll checkout the current MZmine source code, and see how it looks like
> ASAP, this way I'll probably be in a more comfortable position to make
> pertinent comments ;).
>
> Cheers,
> Gauthier
>
>
> On 04/19/2015 04:54 AM, Tomas Pluskal wrote:
>> Hi Gauthier, Mike,
>>
>> I can imagine the file selector could have several options:
>>
>> * use all files
>> * use currently selected files (in the GUI)
>> * use files generated by the previous step (in batch mode)
>> * select files manually
>> * select files using name pattern
>>
>> Would that make you happy? :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tomas
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 19, 2015, at 1:48 AM, Gauthier Boaglio <gauthier.boag...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Sounds like something that went on the table earlier ;)
>>>
>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/mzmine/mailman/message/33158142/
>>>
>>> The old way / design (before 2.13) was handy from user point of view
>>> because each step was getting automatically the files generated by the
>>> previous step as input for the next step, but was also causing issues
>>> (more from link above).
>>>
>>> Well, don't know if a compromise could be found. As a matter of fact,
>>> setting wildcards filtering for each step is constraining, from user side...
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Gauthier
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/18/2015 04:31 AM, Tomas Pluskal wrote:
>>>> Hi Mike,
>>>>
>>>> In the selection component you can use wildcards (*) to specify the names 
>>>> of raw data files that will be used.
>>>>
>>>> For example
>>>> *   will use all files
>>>> *filtered    will use all files with name ending with "filtered"
>>>>
>>>> And so on. This way you can "program" the batch mode to use exactly the 
>>>> right files in each step.
>>>>
>>>> Thinking about that, we could probably add an extra option "Use the files 
>>>> currently selected in the project window". That would be useful for the 
>>>> first step of the batch. I'll take a look at it later.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Tomas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 18, 2015, at 1:28 AM, Williams,Michael Thomas David 
>>>>> <mtdwilli...@ufl.edu> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am having trouble running batch mode analysis using v. 2.14.2 (newest). 
>>>>> In older versions (2.12 specifically) we are able to select all of the 
>>>>> imported files and run a batch mod on all files without selecting 
>>>>> specific file names for each process in the batch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to do something similar with the current version? As it is 
>>>>> now I have to manually select the files for each step in the batch 
>>>>> sequence. Which at first is only the raw files. It runs through the Mass 
>>>>> detection, but because old lists are replaced by new ones (with new 
>>>>> names) in each subsequent step we get an error and these then have to be 
>>>>> run manually since the peak list names change with each step 
>>>>> (chromatogram builder, deconvolution, isotopic grouper, join aligner, 
>>>>> etc.). Can this be fixed so that the batch process will work? This tends 
>>>>> to save us a lot of time without having to come back to run each process 
>>>>> manually.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael D. Williams
>>>>> Postdoctoral Research Associate
>>>>> University of Florida
>>>>> mtdwilli...@ufl.edu
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>> Tomas Pluskal
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>> 1919-1 Tancha, Onna-son, Okinawa 904-0495, Japan
>> WWW: https://groups.oist.jp/g0
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>
>
> --
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>
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>
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>
>
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Tomas Pluskal
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1919-1 Tancha, Onna-son, Okinawa 904-0495, Japan
WWW: https://groups.oist.jp/g0
TEL: +81-98-966-8684
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