Andrew,

Could we back up a little bit to clearer definition of the problems with 
PayPal? What kind of account do you have now and what demands have they made of 
you? Is it something like a limit on volume of transactions or dollars/month? I 
ask because I think that, all things being equal, PayPal is still the best way 
to handle payment, especially when you consider the number of international 
buyers involved.

If it is a matter of additional fees, I don’t think there would be any 
objection to increasing the cost of the boards to include whatever 
administrative overhead is involved. For that matter, you should also be 
compensated for your time, shipping and mailing supplies, transportation costs, 
etc.  Of course this is a volunteer effort but it shouldn’t be an expense for 
you.

If there are additional personal, business or regulatory issues involved, then 
that is surely your call. I just don’t want to walk away from PayPal if we can 
find a comfortable accommodation for you and all concerned.

Meanwhile, following on the lead of several other N8VEM members, I’m happy to 
volunteer to help in whatever way you see fit.

Thanks to you and John for keeping this great project alive.

Best,
Jack

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Andrew Lynch
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2014 1:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [N8VEM-S100:2308] Re: accepting pre-orders for the S-100 Z80 CPU 
V2 board

Hi

Honestly I have not figured this out yet.  I am thinking that some analog of 
how we would do this were we all in the same small town.  Think of a ham radio 
club that wanted to raise funds for a new repeater antenna.  All the club 
members contribute to the fund, they buy it, install it, and they all use it.  
Part of the problem though is the N8VEM home brew computer project is 
definitely not a business and it more like a hobby club but just not well 
organized.  There is no official leadership or treasurer and is basically an ad 
hoc group of random hobbyists that are globally dispersed.

What I am thinking about is basically every interested builder puts their money 
into a “kitty” and we use that to order the boards.  The closest thing I can 
think of is to just mail a check, money order, or cash which I or some other 
builder then uses to order the PCBs.  It is more hassle for everyone than 
PayPal but it avoids all of their problems too.  I think any sort of electronic 
funds transfer service (Amazon, etc) has this problem.  PayPal is just 
following the law to report when they see the number of transactions exceed 
some limit.

I am not sure of how WU or Money Gram works but if it involves posting bank 
account information that is a non-starter due to internet privacy concerns 
(really the total lack thereof).  However there are some banks/credit unions 
that allow a sort of electronic paper check to be sent.   The builder tells the 
bank to send the check and the bank/credit union literally mails a physical 
check to the specified address.  It appears automatic and fully electronic from 
the senders end but the receiver gets an actual check.  Sort of the best of 
both worlds if it is available.

Thanks and have a nice day!

Andrew Lynch

From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe Herdler
Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 2014 11:27 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [N8VEM-S100:2304] Re: accepting pre-orders for the S-100 Z80 CPU 
V2 board

Hi Andrew,

Would it just be easier to have those of us who want a board to wire you the 
money via WU or Money Gram?

Just a thought.

Best,

Joe




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On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 9:07 PM, nbreeden 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Andrew,
  Please put me down for one.
-Neil

On Sunday, January 5, 2014 12:39:03 PM UTC-8, lynchaj wrote:
Hi!

We are about to do another run of our popular S-100 Bus Z80 CPU V2 board.  This 
board can run in systems (with bus termination etc.) at up to 10MHz.  Apart 
from all the then common features found on many older S100 Z80 boards (and 
being completely S-100 IEEE-696 compliant), it had an extremely clever and 
powerful ability to allow the Z80 to address up to 1 MG of RAM in 16K "windows" 
within the Z80's address space.  This is described here:-

http://www.s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/Z80%20Board/Z80%20CPU%20Board.htm

Its primary importance is that it can be used to address greater than 64K of 
RAM for CPM3 and that it can be used to load/examine 8086 code at the top of 
the 1MG address space.

The new “V2” version of the board now has the ability to (under software 
control) dynamically switch between two 4K blocks of code in its onboard  28C64 
EEPROM (or EPROM) yet still only occupy 4K in the Z80’s 64K memory space.  This 
in effect almost doubles the size of a possible Z80 monitor.  The extra code 
(currently being written) will include things like directly downloading binary 
files from a PC into the Z80’s 64K (or 8086’s 1M) address space.

In addition, the S-100 Z80 CPU V2 has the ability to use an external CPU clock 
from an external source (S-100 bus pin 66 aka NDEF3).  This is essential for 
CPU to video synchronization for MSX compatibility particularly in games.  
There will be a corresponding ability to export a CPU clock signal on the next 
version of the S-100 VDP board although this could come from any S-100 board.

Current owners of the V1 board can just switch the IC’s to this new bare board.

The S-100 Z80 CPU V2 PCBs will be $20 each as per the usual arrangement.  
Shipping in the US is $3 for a single PCB and $2 for each additional PCB.  
Shipping internationally is $12.75 for a single PCB and $3 for each additional 
PCB.  This is for the bare basics USPS first class postage with no tracking or 
insurance.  The builder assumes all risk of delivery as per usual arrangement.

My preference is to sell these PCBs to vintage computer/home brew 
computer/classic computer hobbyists first but if there are any remaining boards 
I will put them on eBay.

Please send a PayPal to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> with the 
subject “S-100 Z80 CPU V2 board” and I will reserve your board(s).  I need 
about 20 pre-orders to warrant a manufacturing run.  I will post more 
information as it becomes available.

Thanks and have a nice day!

Andrew Lynch
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