I was wrong.  That's a -1-P which *does* cross-reference for 10 MHz :->.

On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Paul Birkel <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't disagree, and I did see that -P part previously.  Unfortunately
> the cross-reference that I found lists it as an 8MHz part -- which is
> consistent with its pricing ...
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 8:22 AM, David Fry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> Yes, I read webpage on the 80286 card some time ago.
>> I was just wondering if the 15Mhz 'top out' is more due to reaching the
>> upper limit of the 82C284-12 and 82288-10 parts that are shown in the
>> pictures of his card,
>> John does mention something to the effect of 'your milage may vary',
>> Maybe the Siemens parts (as per the datasheet) may be able to get the board
>> to 16Mhz with a few wait states to slow the bus access, for me part of the
>> fun is seeing what can be achieved.
>>
>> The other point I was trying to offer is that the SAB82288-I-P chips are
>> available on ebay for a fraction of the price of the Intel parts, this may
>> be the solution you need regarding your original post.
>>
>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SAB82288-I-P-SIEMENS-20-Pin-NEW-SAB82288-1-P-P82288-/120545267057?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c110ecd71#ht_198wt_927
>>
>> best regards
>>
>> David Fry
>>
>> On Friday, May 9, 2014 12:25:16 PM UTC+1, pbirkel wrote:
>>
>>> Well, note that John states that he wasn't able to achieve stable
>>> performance @15MHz ("The board with an AMD 80C286-16 CPU  I could get the
>>> board to run in my system with a 15MHz Oscillator "most of the time".
>>> However I normally run the board with a 12 MHz AMD N80L286-12 (no I/O wait
>>> states), with on-board 28C256 EEPROMS or off-board EEPROMS on the MS-DOS
>>> support board.  At this speed the board is absolutely rock solid.") and the
>>> S-100 bus does "top out" around 12 MHz.  Adding wait states might get you
>>> to 16+ on the CPU.  John doesn't mention whether he tried trading
>>> wait-states for CPU speed.  Experiment!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 6:43 AM, David Fry <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  John / Paul,,
>>>>
>>>> have a look at the attached datasheets, looks like Siemens did faster
>>>> versions of the 80288 and 80284 support IC's.
>>>> Would they work on our 80286 boards at maybe 16Mhz~ 20Mhz  with a 20Mhz
>>>> CPU?
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>>
>>>> David Fry
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, April 26, 2014 6:58:19 PM UTC+1, monahanz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Hi everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm going to quickly do a “Production”  run of the V2-80286
>>>>> Master/Slave CPU board.  This is a rework and upgrade of the original
>>>>> 80286 board.  The differences/improvements are listed towards the
>>>>> bottom of this page.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://s100computers.com/My%20System%20Pages/80286%20Board/
>>>>> 80286%20CPU%20Board.htm#V2-80286
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a fairly complex board and probably not for some to start with
>>>>> in the 16 bit S100 arena.  However it may be some time until we do
>>>>> another run.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I will be traveling (again) soon, so I would like to get the order out
>>>>> early next week. Please let me know if you would like one or more boards
>>>>> (via e-mail to monahan AT vitasoft.org).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Also please it is lightly we will be below the normal number of boards
>>>>> (20) to get the low $33 price, could be 2X that.  If that is a
>>>>> problem let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
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