I'm rather a fan of DipTrace, as well.  I've designed ~10 boards with it,
so far, and it does a good job of being powerful, without being too hard to
use.  The interface is a bit clunky, but it does the job, especially given
the fairly low price.

- Alex


On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Richard Cini <[email protected]> wrote:

> Unfortunately, no. I never worked in the S100 format with it before. All
> of my work has been random sizes, from near-ECB to 6”x14”.
>
> The S100 connector may exist already, though. You’d have to search by 3M
> or AMP/Tyco part number.
>
> Rich
>
> --
> Rich Cini
> Collector of Classic Computers
> Build Master and lead engineer, Altair32 Emulator
> http://www.classiccmp.org/cini
> http://www.classiccmp.org/altair32
>
> From: John Monahan <[email protected]>
> Organization: Vitasoft
> Reply-To: S100-Post <[email protected]>
> Date: Sunday, June 22, 2014 at 7:06 PM
> To: S100-Post <[email protected]>
> Subject: RE: [N8VEM-S100:4332] FreeRouter No longer available. Long term
> plans for Board layouts
>
> So you have the S100 connector and S100 board dimensions etc. Rich ?
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]
> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Richard Cini
> *Sent:* Sunday, June 22, 2014 3:47 PM
> *To:* S100-Post
> *Subject:* Re: [N8VEM-S100:4331] FreeRouter No longer available. Long
> term plans for Board layouts
>
>
>
> John —
>
>
>
>                 DipTrace is my preferred CAD product I did purchase the
> 1000-hole version and I’ve done all of my 6502 boards with it, and I
> started re-doing the Altair32 front panel using it. I generally do the
> physical board layout with their PCB tool and mostly use their router,
> although I now use the PC/standalone version of FreeRouting for the whole
> routing and/or optimizing an existing layout.
>
>
>
>                 I have some libraries made for things I’ve used, like
> Commodore parts and certain connectors. Overall, I’m happy with the product.
>
>
>
> Rich
>
>
>
> --
>
> Rich Cini
>
> Collector of Classic Computers
>
> Build Master and lead engineer, Altair32 Emulator
>
> http://www.classiccmp.org/cini
>
> http://www.classiccmp.org/altair32
>
>
>
> *From: *John Monahan <[email protected]>
> *Reply-To: *S100-Post <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Sunday, June 22, 2014 at 6:41 PM
> *To: *S100-Post <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *[N8VEM-S100:4331] FreeRouter No longer available. Long term
> plans for Board layouts
>
>
>
> It looks like the http://www.freerouting.net/ web site for FreeRouter is
> no longer available!
>
>
>
> This leaves us with a big problem making PC boards with KiCad.
> (Fortunately I happen to have the PC version here for my own use), but it
> opens up a general question as to how we do PC boards (S100 and others) in
> the future.
>
>
>
> Personally I'm having a hard time getting things done with KiCad. The
> PCBNew program seems (to me) very "finicy" in making files for Freerouter.
>
>
>
> I'm wondering what other people think about a more "All-in-one" PC CAD
> program. I once used a program called DipTrace (they have a free version
> for up to 500 pins to try it out).  See here http://diptrace.com/. The
> thing that impressed me was the speed in which it converted the schematic
> into an actual board file and Gurber files.  There was only one program,
> one interface.  Personally I would spring for paying for the 1000 pin
> commercial version (or heigher) , I and perhaps others, could run batches
> for others.
>
>
>
> The main issue is that for any program we would have to build a library
> for the S100 connector, board dimensions and presumably a number of other
> things.
>
>
>
> I would be interested in hearing comments by others on a way to proceed.
> Has anybody else used CAD programs they like.  Anybody got experience with
> DipTrace
>
>
>
>
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>
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