I've had really good luck with Quest Components out here in California.  I 
bought the FDC chip for my ECB SBC-188 from them, and 10 each uPD7220 and 
the BT478 chips to go with them.  Everything came very well packaged 
(desiccant even) and quickly.  

I looked at some of the 286/386 board support chips and they had them so 
when I get to those boards that is where I will order from.

Andrew B

On Friday, August 15, 2014 2:07:03 PM UTC-7, Crustyomo wrote:
>
> Gary,
>
> Thanks for those names, I've added them to my own private "Black list"
>
> Regards,
> Josh
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2014 15:21:35 -0400
> From: [email protected] <javascript:>
> To: [email protected] <javascript:>
> Subject: Re: [N8VEM-S100:4934] Fake 65C02
>
> Welcome to the counterfeit club.  I could make a mosaic with fake Z80's.
>
> Who was the vendor/seller?
>
> My experiences include:
>
> adeleparts2010 - purchased 10 pc TIL311 - used parts, obviously desoldered 
> and some damaged 
>         - no relationship to the parts in the picture.
>
> allpartspipe2008 - Z84C0020PEC 20mhz CMOS Z80's are all counterfeit - and 
> poorly done.
>
> - Gary
>
> On 8/15/2014 3:14 PM, Rich Leary wrote:
>  
> I purchased some 65C02's on eBay in June to use on my V1 6502 CPU board. 
> While my wire-wrap CPU board used a 'C02' (GTE 65SC102-2 to be a little 
> more definitive) I had never written any code that used the 'C02' added 
> opcodes, addressing modes, or other features. My DOS/65 code uses strictly 
> NMOS 6502 opcodes etc. 
>
>  I wrote a short utility that used BRA instead of JMPs and in one spot 
> used an INC A opcode. The utility would not work leading me to question 
> whether I had the residual brain cells to have fun with computers. I 
> changed the code to remove any 'C02' opcodes etc. and the utility worked 
> fine. I was now suspicious.
>
>  I then used the few lines of code that perform BCD arithmetic as the 
> NMOS 6502s do not correctly handle the flags when doing BCD arithmetic. The 
> CMOS versions do correctly set the flags. This test clearly indicated that 
> what was labeled a 65C02 (specifics in a minute) was not a 65C02 but was an 
> NMOS 6502.
>
>  Bottom line - the ICs appear to be intentionally mislabeled. So if you 
> see an eBay add for a 65C02 with the following lines and with the Rockwell 
> logo to the right of the first three lines be careful.
>
>  R65C02P4
> 11450-13
> MEXICO
> 0815 S11468-4
>
>  I did a quick eBay check and more than seller in China had IC pictures 
> with this marking. Some may be correct but I suspect many are not.
>
>  By the way, when I pulled the new 6502 V1 board and put my 30+ year old 
> wire wrap board in my system to run the same tests on the GTE IC, it 
> refused to start. I guess I really do need the V1 6502 CPU!
>
>  Rich Leary
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