Typical V-in is 8 Volts on S100 bus, but should allow up to 10V.  Abs Max 
current would be 4 Aps (3+1 for the 5V CPU, else 3 Amps). The AMD 5x86  takes 
up to 1 Amp at 3.3V.

 

Thanks Tom

 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Tom Lafleur
Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 3:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [N8VEM-S100:5500] 80386 CPU Board - Component type/value 
clarification

 

also, what voltage in, voultag out and current max shall I select parts for...

S100...

6 to 9V in, I max ?, V set point??

 

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Tom Lafleur <[email protected]> wrote:

I use 1% resistor all the time... cheap... nothing special...

I will send more info later this weekend when I can looks at my notes...   with 
surface mount resisters and diodes, you can mount them on the back of the board 
to save room.......

 

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 2:35 PM, John Monahan <[email protected]> wrote:

Ok Tom, I’ll take your suggestion. I’ll overlay them in the space as for the 
78H05. That way at least for the 5V CPU’s one could use either option.

 

Since you have used these regulators.  Could you give me the exact specs 
(possible part numbers) for the diodes & inductors.

I’m a bit worried with the adjustable to get to 3.3V.   Always worry that 
somehow the resistors will go out or range and give an over voltage. Are the 
resistors special, 1% etc.

What wattage.

 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Tom Lafleur
Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 1:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [N8VEM-S100:5497] 80386 CPU Board - Component type/value 
clarification

 

the chips are small and so are the parts... so use TWO of them....

also, I always add room for the two trim resisters just in case I want to 
change the output voltage a bit... 

 

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 11:59 AM, John Monahan <[email protected]> wrote:

Good point Tom, will switch!

In an ideal world I would like to have 5V at say 3-5Amps out,  but also 1 -2 
Amps at 3.3V for a AMD 5x86  (the Pentium like CPU) Tom mentioned earlier 
today.  Has anybody see a dual output chip – just asking!

 

John

 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Tom Lafleur
Sent: Saturday, November 1, 2014 11:39 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [N8VEM-S100:5492] 80386 CPU Board - Component type/value 
clarification

 

John...

 

A much better switcher is the LM22677/78, its rated at 5amp, has a very low 100 
mOhms output switch (lower heat) and operate at 500Khz or 1Mhz allowing for a 
much smaller inductor and output C... TI has a number of variants of this 
part.... The TO263 case is easy to use, I just put a pair of small 4/40 holes 
under the power pad and solder it from the back side on my prototypes... I use 
a Bourns inductors and low cost Panasonic output C.. there all surfaces mount, 
but they are large and very easy to solder... same with the diode... Other part 
can all be size 1210 or larger parts, again easy to solder... even with my 
older eyes...

If you need 2-4 amp or so, this is the part I use in my designs and I would 
recommend...

 

There are many other parts like this, but this one is easy to get, simple to 
use ect....

 

The LM2576 is rated at 3amp, and switched at 50Khz, requires a very large 
inductor and very large output C....

tom lafleur


 


 

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 3:04 PM, John Monahan <[email protected]> wrote:

I think I did 4 prototypes on this board Dave, Played around a bit with the 
caps early on.   Did not seem to make a difference (at these low frequencies).  
 The Intel manual has a whole section on board layout. See one page attached 
here.   I ended up with 0.1’s and two 1uF Tants on C71 & C54.  Probably more 
important is the actual power supply.  Doing the 80486 I’m learning a lot! On 
that board I’m bring special wide traces directly to the chip. Also if you can 
get your hands on one, get a 74H05.  There are so many of the 3Amp regulators 
that are out of specs,  it’s ridiculous.  While I have a board running at 
4.8V’s with one, I really don’t like it.

 

I am also looking into these newer LM2576’s. See attached. Know anything about 
them.

 

BTW, I’m also doing a direct SMD 32MB  RAM daughter board (like our 16MB 
board). Again a tight  board fit (see an non optimized version).   I will order 
4 for myself but since its completely untested I’m not going to announce it 
yet. But just FYI.

 

Let me know how the 80386 works.  The only thing I’m not comfortable with on 
that board is the “kludge” to stretch out the pWR* signal.  I hope to do it 
better (clock independent) on this 80486.

 

John

 

 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of David Fry
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 2:37 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [N8VEM-S100:5481] 80386 CPU Board - Component type/value clarification

 

Hi John,

 

I am slowly starting to populate my 80386 PCB with capacitors and have a query 
regarding C51 and C74 (positioned either side of the 80386 CPU).

The schematic would suggest that these are 0.1uF multilayer ceramic capacitors 
like the rest, but the pictures on most versions of your 80386 boards would 
seem to indicate you have used a tantalum bead capacitor in these two positions.

 

Please can you clarify what type & value of capacitor should be used here.

 

regards and thanks

 

David Fry

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