Awesome to get this history lesson Josh! And good cautions to heed. So TMS 
T-exas M-otorola ? 

 - jeffa

On Tuesday, April 14, 2015 at 3:55:08 PM UTC-7, Crustyomo wrote:
>
> Ahh, yes, here's the story about the 2716....  gather around the fire...
>
> The chip prior to the 2716 was the Intel 2708.  The 2708 used a 
> configuration of transistors that required 5V, 12V and -5V  (like the 
> 8080).  Texas Instruments and Motorola both 2nd sourced Intel and at the 
> same time Intel prototyped the 2716, TI and Mot started building the 
> "TMS2716" which are also tri-voltage devices.  But, Intel improved the 
> transistor configuration and produced their i2716, which only used 5V.  All 
> the other chip makers were "1 step" behind, so they benefited from Intel's 
> new technology and also built 5V only 2716's.  Bottom line,  be very 
> careful when plugging a 2716 into a socket, make sure that socket isn't 
> wired/powered for the TMS2716, or else you'll be damaging your chip.
> If you plug a TMS2716 into a 5V only socket, it just won't work, data will 
> be all FF's I think.
>
> After searching various data books and IC Master, I found that only TI and 
> Mot chips are tri-voltage and are labeled TMS2716.  I did a write up on 
> this, it's posted on Herb Johnson's website somewhere...
>
> Cheers,
> Josh
>     
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> Subject: [N8VEM-S100:6741] Re: CCS 2810 CPU Rom
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> In my drawers I found
>
> TMS2716C - apparently not supported by GQ-4X
> AM2716DC - Looks to be supported by GQ-4X as 'AM2716'
> AM2732A-2DC - I found a setting for 'AM2732A' I wonder what the 2DC, 
> missing from GQ device id, means? 
>
> What I'm reading is that the 2732 is pin compatible with the 2716. 
> Comments? 
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