Another option may be to use the MicroRAX T-slot rails 
(http://www.microrax.com/)  as the support pieces and fill in the rest with the 
sheets. A piece of 72" rail is only $18.30 and can be easily cut with a small 
saw.

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On Sat, Jun 6, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Andrew Bingham wrote:
> There are a few options for the machining, I have a friend with a mini CNC 
> mill, I have a kit for one of the desktop CNC routers that I never finished 
> assembling.... Or having the plastic vendor do the work.  Even if the 
> machining was another $40/kit it would come out around $100 which is a lot 
> less than some of the custom steel or aluminum enclosures I looked at making. 
>  Plus the savings on shipping vs shipping a large metal case.
>  
> The CAD model was just my first hour of thinking about it and sketching 
> something up....  One thought I had was extending the card guides and gluing 
> them to the base, then only gluing the "U" of the base and sides and having 
> the front and rear panels bolt into the upright posts the same way the lid 
> does.  Then those panels would be completely removable and customizable, 
> could be replaced with other materials, different panels as time goes on, 
> etc.  I think I'd need to build a prototype and see how strong the material 
> and the bonds are to know what might be needed.
>  
> On Saturday, June 6, 2015 at 7:48:30 AM UTC-7, bob wrote:
>> Hi Andrew,


>> This certainly seems like an idea worth exploring.


>> I'm still unclear as to who would do the required machining. Would ePlastics 
>> also be able to provide that service?


>> On their webpage, near the bottom right hand corner, it says: "We cut 
>> everything we sell - straight, curved, holes, slots, rings, and custom."


>> There are definitely some folks who would like to incorporate a front panel 
>> (and probably other options as well).


>> Thank you,


>> Robert Greenstreet


>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>> From: Andrew Bingham 
>>> Sent: Jun 6, 2015 1:05 AM 
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: [N8VEM-S100:7190] Re: A thought on enclosures - G10 FR4 
>>>  
>>> I did a quick sketch showing what I am thinking.  It's incomplete (needs 
>>> more interfaces, spots for fans, etc)
>>>  
>>> Material used would be (http://www.eplastics.com/Paper_Phenolic_Sheet):
>>> 1 - 0.25 x 1 x 48 inch bar @ $8.66 ea (for the reinforcing "posts")
>>> 2 - 0.125 x 24 x 24 inch sheets @ $22.20 ea (for the base plate, sides, and 
>>> card guides
>>> 1 - 0.063 x 24 x 24 inch sheet @ $13.10 (for a lid)
>>> Total material cost - ~$66.
>>>  
>>> Groves and holes would be precut in the front and rear panels for 
>>> interfaces, etc and the mating of the card guides.  Groves would be cut in 
>>> pieces of material to create card guides.  The upright posts would have 
>>> press-in inserts installed for fasteners for the lid.
>>>  
>>> Everything would be shipped flat.  The receiver would get some epoxy 
>>> (http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/epxy_plstc_s/overview/Loctite-Epoxy-Plastic-Bonder.htm),
>>>  epoxy the posts to the sides, epoxy the sides to the base, epoxy in the 
>>> front/rear plates, and then epoxy in the card guides.   (Possibly a section 
>>> of the front and or rear plates could be cut out to allow for front panels 
>>> or changes to ports on the back).
>>>  
>>> I might build a prototype to see if those material thicknesses work.  It 
>>> seems like this could be a good way to make an S-100 enclosure kit without 
>>> breaking the bank.
>>>  
>>> Andrew
>>>  
>>> On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 11:15:15 PM UTC-7, Andrew Bingham wrote:
>>>> Actually, paper-based Grade XX Phenolic would be about 1/2 the cost of 
>>>> G-10.  I get about $60 in raw material cost for a case with a design that 
>>>> could be epoxied together at home reasonably well.
>>>>  
>>>> On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 10:36:40 PM UTC-7, Andrew Bingham wrote:
>>>>> Several people have asked about different S-100 enclosure options.  
>>>>> Custom enclosures are often time consuming to get, heavy to ship, etc.
>>>>>  
>>>>> There was an article on Hackaday about making enclosures from FR4 PCB 
>>>>> board - 
>>>>> http://hackaday.com/2015/06/03/how-to-build-beautiful-enclosures-from-fr4-aka-pcbs/
>>>>>   While I think doing it with etched-copper clad board and a soldering 
>>>>> iron as shown in the Hackaday pieces is not really an option for an 
>>>>> enclosure large enough for S-100 systems (and a waste of copper board) - 
>>>>> plain G-10 FR4 is readily available.
>>>>>  
>>>>> One could purchase a single 36"x36"x0.093" piece of black G-10 FR4 
>>>>> (http://www.eplastics.com/G10BLK-093X36X36) and cut it into the pieces 
>>>>> required to make a 17x17x7" enclosure, and still have about a 5"x36" 
>>>>> section of material left to make card guides, drive cages, etc.  5-minute 
>>>>> epoxy from the store could be used to bond the pieces into the final 
>>>>> configuration.  With a simple PCB mill like the X-Crave, holes, ports, 
>>>>> etc could be added (and maybe groves to guide fitting the pieces 
>>>>> together).
>>>>>  
>>>>> An advantage here would be if someone made a kit, the G-10 pieces could 
>>>>> be shipped flat-packed similar to the way we ship our PCBs and the epoxy 
>>>>> purchased locally at a hardware store by the builder.  Thus avoiding the 
>>>>> shipping costs of a heavy and volumetrically large metal enclosure, which 
>>>>> end up being a significant portion of the cost of any hobby enclosure 
>>>>> project.
>>>>>  
>>>>> Andrew
>>> 


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