Bob what is the circuit, I’m really surprised freerouter could not do a two 
layer board.  I have done 80486 boards where literally finding spaces for the 
chips became the issue yet freerouter resolved in 2-3 days.   The initial 
placement of chips is most critical. Try and avoid as much as possible the net 
wires crossing over each other.

Another trick is to let it run say 2 or three days.  Save the file,  and in 
KiCAD see what is not connected. Start again,  but first link up by hand the 
previously unconnected wires.

Most companies these days will do multilayer boards including PCBCart. However 
> 2 layers are more than 2X more expensive.

 

Have not done > 2 layers

John

 

 

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Bob Bell
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 4:13 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [N8VEM-S100:7260] Has anyone done a board with more than the standard 
2-sides?

 

I am working on a board design (details to appear later - it's getting close) 
and I am concerned about component density and the ability to route the board.  
A previous version of the board pretty much maxed out component count and took 
several weeks (albeit rare spare time) to hand route (the autorouter I was 
using at the time just utterly gave up.)  This new design, even with all the 
random logic and some of the higher-level logic crammed into 12 GALs, exceeds 
the pin count, my measure of board density, of the previous version by nearly 
30%.  So, it is looking quite likely that I'll need to go to at least a 4-layer 
board to be sure it can be routed with the chips as close to each other as I 
believe they will need to be.
Has anyone used KiCAD to do 4 layers?
Does the Chinese company I have seen used for many of the recent boards do 4 
layers?
What precautions, tips or best practices should I be aware of?
Any input from this great group would be much appreciated!

Thanks!

Bob Bell

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