Fair enough, looking forward to version 2 of NLG! Cheers /Lars Andy Shellam wrote: > Hi Lars, > > I agree with you 100%. If I, as a user (techie or not), looking at my own > machines, I'd expect some sort of summary; I wouldn't care about anyone > else's or even the network as a whole. As you quite rightly said Lars, the > 'overall health' needs to be aimed at the users "select machines". NLG v1, > however, has no concept of machine ownership, it simply shows the entire > Nagios estate. > > This isn't a fault, that's how it was designed. It is, however, also where > it falls down, and the need for a solution targeted to a different audience > becomes apparent, hence the v2 project. > > I designed v1 originally for my own use, to present users who have signed up > to my services as an ISP with an overview of my network and how well (or > badly) it was performing. Users didn't have machines or services of their > own; they just wanted to be able to see if network problems were affecting > the servers they may use. > > Since I released it to the Nagios community last year, a wider audience have > seen the potential for using NLG in ways it wasn't originally designed, > which is fantastic because it means I get the chance to build on the success > of the project, and hopefully design and build a solution that more and more > people will find useful :-) > > The "host-filter" hack was indeed a hack as many people were requesting the > same thing, but with the current code architecture it wasn't possible to do > a permanent fix, and it was indeed a hack put in simply to tide people over > until v2 is ready. > > Andy > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] Nagios Looking Glass 1.1.0 beta 1 released >> From: Lars Stavholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Andy Shellam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> CC: "Giles Coochey" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net" > <nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net> >> Date: 19/02/2008 7:01 >> >> >> Andy Shellam wrote: >>> Hi Giles, >>> >>> Thanks for your comments. The 'Network Health' page is designed to > reflect >>> the status of the network as a whole which, I agree, can be confusing > when >>> host-specific filters are specified. An example scenario of the > reasoning >>> behind this is: >>> >>> You're viewing the 'network health' page and select the "down hosts > only" >>> filter. All the hosts in this filter will be down, thus rendering the >>> network "100% down", which obviously looks bad. >> Of course it does, and as an example of the situation at hand, >> pretty useless. >> >> How about viewing this problem from the users point of view? >> And I mean the non-techie user. Then it would be quite obvious >> that Network Health should reflect the network health of the >> users machines, otherwise you would have a bit of explaining >> to do to a bunch of not so happy users, that would look at you >> with those eyes saying "now there's a real techie, he hasn't >> got a clue, let's get out of here". >> >> When using the "down hosts only filter", one might consider not >> letting this reflect on the overall Network Health at all, >> actually. IMHO the Network Health should show the summary of >> health for the users select machines only, at all times, >> filter or not. >> >> Other than that, NLG is a brilliant solution, badly needed >> out there (here at least), and I've been looking forward to >> try it out with nagios 3.x. Thanks for the effort Andy! >> >> Just my 2c worth >> >> Cheers >> /Lars >> >>> NLG v2 is going to be designed to work better with users, permissions > and >>> groups and will be better suited to those who don't want a simple > "network >>> overview" and would like to restrict what different users and groups can >>> see. >>> >>> In terms of licensing, clause 4c states that if the work, ie. NLG, is >>> publicly displayed then all copyright notices must be kept intact, > including >>> the author's name, designated company, title of the work and URL. > Therefore >>> if you're providing access to NLG through a publicly-available URL or >>> website, the copyright notice must be left intact, otherwise if it is > only >>> available to a set number of users (e.g. through an internal URL or >>> intranet) I'm happy for the copyright notice to be removed. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Andy >>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> Subject: Re: [Nagios-users] Nagios Looking Glass 1.1.0 beta 1 released >>>> From: Giles Coochey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> Date: 18/02/2008 15:59 >>>> >>>> >>>> Andy, >>>> >>>> I thought I'd take a look at your project, as I have some interest in >>> having some sort of dynamic portal which customers can query and I've > seen >>> your project surface time-and-time again on this list. >>>> I've implemented the 'hack' to limit which hosts a particular user can >>> see, but notice that they still see the "Overall Network Health" still > shows >>> the values for all hosts & services, rather than those in the currently >>> selected filter. >>>> It would be much better if the granularity for this tool followed the >>> 'Nagios way' and used the contact group for all visibility. > Unfortunately >>> this is very important for our environment. >>>> In terms of the license, what if I want to remove all references to > Nagios >>> Looking Glass, your name etc... from the portal interface? Is that going > to >>> be an issue? I'm not talking about removing any copyright or license >>> information from the source files itself, just the customer facing side. >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Giles >>>> >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy >>> Shellam >>>> Sent: 18 February 2008 13:06 >>>> To: nagios-users@lists.sourceforge.net >>>> Subject: [Nagios-users] Nagios Looking Glass 1.1.0 beta 1 released >>>> >>>> The Nagios Looking Glass is pleased to announce the availability of NLG >>> 1.1.0 beta 1. >>>> This is the first release in the 1.1 series that makes NLG compatible > with >>> Nagios 3 (tested with Nagios 3.0rc2) while maintaining compatibility > with >>> Nagios 2.x. >>>> The major changes in this version against 1.0.6 are: >>>> * Added configuration option to change the location of cached files >>> client-side (http://tracker.networkmail.eu/task/337) >>>> * Locking for cache files (http://tracker.networkmail.eu/task/336) >>>> * comments.dat and downtime.dat no longer available (change these to >>> status.dat in server/sync-files/s3_config.inc.php) >>> (http://tracker.networkmail.eu/task/333) >>>> * Allow override of default timezone >>> (http://tracker.networkmail.eu/task/214) >>>> * Ability to disable client-side caching >>> (http://tracker.networkmail.eu/task/126) >>>> The new release >>> can be downloaded from www.nagioslookingglass.co.uk/downloads. >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Andy Shellam >>>> Lead Developer >>>> >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft >>>> Defy all challenges. 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