Have you tried a different gel system  that has a Paint On White gel?  I use 
Starnails gel and doing P&W is very simple.  I do them as thin as I can,  just 
let them level a little bit before curing, they look great and are a thinner 
more natural feeling enhancement.

Michelle Cordes <[email protected]> wrote:            I used to use 
Zoya... I love their colors, but I have had better adhesion with OPI. I also 
love Tammy Taylor polishes, but their color selection is limited.
   
  I cleanse the nails with Scrubfresh before applying the polish, even if they 
just washed...
   
  I love hearing everyone's input though... :)
   
  And I have tried all kinds of gels over the years... just don't like doing 
pink and whites with them! I currently use Brisa. I don't like to use tips for 
anything (personal preference), and sculpting with the gel is a pain for me for 
some reason. So, I do clear or pink gel over a natural nail, with the white gel 
paint. That is about as good as it's gonna get... LOL
   
  Always just been an acrylic girl... (hence, the used to educate for TT)...
   
  Michelle Cordes

--- On Fri, 1/9/09, Sherry Hubbard <[email protected]> wrote:

  From: Sherry Hubbard <[email protected]>
Subject: NailTech:: Re: Was paraffin wax, now massage after polish
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 10:08 AM

              The polish does stay on better after the paraffin dip.  After the 
paraffin dip, wipe the nails with a lint free wipe with cleanser.  Then use a 
“sandwich” which

  Is base coat, polish, base coat, polish, and topcoat.  Polish lasts for a 
long time depending on lifestyle.  For those who have trouble getting polish to 
stay on

  Natural nails, try Zoya.  It is toluene and formaldeyhyde free.  Sherry H  
PS- you can dip the paraffin into a plastic bag with a small Dixie cup and work 
it around the really dry areas.  Then slip into heated mitts 
(www.starnail.com).  The mitts are electric and will keep the paraffin warm 
much longer.  If you massage before the  
  Paraffin dip, the paraffin seals in the moisture.   This helps the hands feel 
softer longer, as well as relieving arthritis pain (although temporarily).  You 
can  
  Do the same procedure for feet.  Really helps cold, tired, achy feet.   
Sherry Hubbard  
     
      
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  From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected] ] On 
Behalf Of Lisa Cianciotti
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:49 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: NailTech:: Re: Was paraffin wax, now massage after polish

  
     
      I tried this method tonight and I got marks from the paraffin in the 
polish.  Maybe if I would have let the nails dry longer, it would have worked.  
I will try it again and see.  
 


    Lisa 

  
     

      
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  From: Angela R Wingerter <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 10:31:18 PM
Subject: NailTech:: Re: Was paraffin wax, now massage after polish

      That makes sense, the polish would stay on better if it was applied 
before the parifin. Hmmm?? I have a parifin manicure tomorrow. The only problem 
is I have never done her before. What if it doesn't work? 
 


    Angie Wingerter

  
     

  
     

      
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  From: Michelle Cordes <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 1:52:18 PM
Subject: NailTech:: Re: Was paraffin wax, now massage after polish

            Hey Melody...

  
     

  
    Just so everyone knows, LOL,  my mani client that the polish lasted 3 weeks 
on works in the shipyard scheduling welders... computer and papers ALL day. And 
this is not a... ahem ... delicate sort of woman... ;-)

  
     

  
    My other clients are 2 nurses, a librarian, a home health assistant, a 
master gardener... I think you get the point...

  
     

  
    These ladies just ain't sittin around!!! One of the nurses has found that 
the polish doesn't chip, but the sanitizer they use on their hands in the 
critical care unit WEARS OFF the polish. (It is also eating the floor under the 
dispensers, can you imagine what it does to their skin?!?!) 

  
    No wonder we all have a job... giggle...

  
     

  
    Michelle in WA

--- On Thu, 1/8/09, [email protected] 
<[email protected]> wrote:

  
    From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: NailTech:: Re: Was paraffin wax, now massage after polish
To: "NailTech Group" < [email protected] >
Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 8:27 AM  
    Dang, all I have to say is: you ladies whose polish lasts up to 2wks on 
your clients..... Those clients must not do housework or anything....!!

I have tried the oil-on-the-nailplate trick to get my polish to last like 
that...and, maybe I hold my mouth wrong... But it doesn't work for me! I have 
tried it on several clients and the longevity of the polish wear showed no 
difference....

I am going to try this method... Wish I knew what I was doing or not doing so 
that I could get those kind of results!

Melody Montgomery
Everything Nailz Ink
Greenville , NC

    Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular

  
      
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  From: Michelle Cordes 
Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 07:48:40 -0800 (PST)
To: < [email protected] >
Subject: NailTech:: Was paraffin wax, now massage after polish

            Hey guys. LOL, I know it seems like it wouldn't work, but I have 
been doing it for years!

  
     

  
    I put on my Nailtek, color, and CND Air Dry or Nailtek, french, and Seche 
Vite. I let it set for about one minute, then I drop on CND Solar Oil and 
smooth it across the nail with a feather light touch. I scoop a dollop of CND 
Solar Butter (now it is called Almond Moisturizing Creme or somethin...) and I 
begin my massage at the elbow on their right arm and work down to the knuckles 
right above their nail. Then I do the same massage on their left arm to the 
nails. By the time you do all this (takes about 10-15 minutes if you're doing 
it right), you can massage the Solar Oil into their nails, adding more oil if 
you need to because their skin has soaked it up.  (BTW, I book an hour for my 
Spa Manicures and charge $30).

  
     

  
    When I started doing this about 8 years ago, it was kind of an accident... 
I had one of those antsy pants clients who got me all flustered. She kinda made 
me... well... forget... to massage and paraffin! I did her polish and then went 
"Crap!" So, I did her massage and dipped her in the wax... Lo and behold she 
didn't nick her polish because it was dry and it stuck like glue!!! I always 
had problems with polish not staying on for more than 2 days or so, so I 
switched it up! My clients polish now lasts upwards of 2 weeks, and I have been 
doing it ever since. Necessity is the mother of invention... :) I do it 
slightly different now with the CND SpaManicure line... I do the paraffin after 
the scrub and activator. 

  
     

  
    In fact, I have a weekly mani client who had to skip because of the weather 
recently. She went 3 weeks... came in for her mani with slightly 
free-edge-chipped french... after 3 WEEKS! Even I was shocked at that one...

  
     

  
    Well, greetings from the monsoon everyone... Have a good one...

  
     

  
    Michelle Cordes

  
    Bremerton AND Tacoma , Washington (yeah, I finally found another salon!!!)

--- On Thu, 1/8/09, Lisa Cianciotti <[email protected]> wrote:

  
    From: Lisa Cianciotti <[email protected]>
Subject: NailTech:: Re: Paraffin Wax
To: [email protected]
Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 6:03 AM  
        Yes, how do you massage while polish is drying?


     


    Lisa 

  
     

      
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  From: shannon <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 7:23:30 AM
Subject: NailTech:: Re: Paraffin Wax

    How in the world do you massage the hands after you have polished?  I 
massage the fingers and cuticles along with the hand, wrist, and forearm.  

  
     

  
    Shannon

Michelle Cordes <[email protected]> wrote:

  
              Hi Lisa. I use paraffin on every manicure. I use Creative's line, 
and I do the paraffin after the exfoliating scrub and activator... then I have 
my clients rinse their hands and scrub their nails- this is when I prep and 
polish- then while the polish is drying I do the hand massage. If I am not 
using the scrub and activator, I do the paraffin after the massage. Now that I 
am reading this back, I am almost confusing myself!!! LOL...

  
    Email me if you want me to just send you my entire procedures... I have 
tried lots over the years, and have refined it down to a very specific process 
for very specific reasons...

  
    Happy filing,

  
    Michelle Cordes

--- On Wed, 1/7/09, Lisa Cianciotti <[email protected]> wrote:

  
    From: Lisa Cianciotti <[email protected]>
Subject: NailTech:: Paraffin Wax
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 6:45 PM  
        Hi,


        This question is for anyone out there who uses paraffin as an add on to 
manicures.  At what point in the manicure do you do the paraffin?  What if you 
are doing a scrub also?  


        I am one of those who didn't get proper schooling and was never taught 
anything about a manicure beyond shaping nails, pushing back cuticles, massage 
and polish.  
 

  
    Lisa Cianciotti

  
     

  
  
  


Arnold
Flip Flop Beauty Shop
Coopers Plains , NY
[email protected]   
    









  
  
  
  
  
  
    
  
  
    
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
  
  






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Flip Flop Beauty Shop
Coopers Plains,  NY
[email protected]
       
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