Ok... so... here is my question about sculpting gels... I am good with the whole application, just as you said EXCEPT I can't seem to "roll" the white off my brush onto the form in a nice ball. It comes off in a big smooshy mess... and it doesn't level. AT ALL. It would sit there in a big lump all dang day if I didn't start mushing it around. Is it possible I have been beating myself up over a bad container of white gel?!? Or is there something else I may need to know? Oh, for those who missed it, I use Brisa.... Any input would be much appreciated... Michelle Cordes
--- On Sat, 1/10/09, Melody C. Montgomery <[email protected]> wrote: From: Melody C. Montgomery <[email protected]> Subject: NailTech:: Re: Was paraffin wax, now gel To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 5:55 AM Yeah, ditto from me, Michelle! It took me a while to get used to sculpting with gel…. And I use Brisa… but, I won’t ever go back to gluing tips… it just cuts so much off your full set/repair time… even with gels, once you get your system worked out. Brisa is not as stiff as a lot of other gels because of its self-leveling properties. Typically what I do is: Put on the form Apply thin layer of gel over entire nail plate THEN build free edge on the form. First a medium layer… Remember the Brisa is going to level out immediately so I just focus on getting it in a basic shape then lock the gel. Then I go on to the next nail to build and you can then apply any addition gel to any zone on the previous nail at that time, in thin layers so that you do not apply too much gel at one time to prevent heat spike. You just have to keep playing with it, of course and figure out what method of application works best for you…. And thanks for the TT info! I will check out the videos… I am on dial-up, so that is why I haven’t already been able to watch the online educational videos that I see posted here on this list on a regular basis.. haha… but one day when I grow up I hope to be on DSL! HAHAHA! Feel free to call me if you have any questions… any one here on this list…. I am basically a CND Diva….. gels and AC… Melody C. Montgomery Manicuring Professional Everything Nailz Ink Greenville, NC www.everythingNAILZink.com 252-217-8221 From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of shannon Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 8:23 AM To: [email protected] Subject: NailTech:: Re: Was paraffin wax, now gel Keep trying you'll get the hang of it!!! Have you tried sculpting a very thin free edge with your clear or builder first, you could also try the reverse method. Greg from young nails has great tutorials on how to do this. There are also several TUT's on the nails tv site, you tube videos. They are so worth a looksie. Don't give up once you get the hang of it, you'll love it. Shannon Michelle Cordes <[email protected]> wrote: I use Brisa Gel Paint... goes on like polish... It is ok. I just flat out prefer to sculpt nails, and I haven't found a gel I like doing that with yet... Thanks shannon ! Michelle Cordes --- On Fri, 1/9/09, shannon <[email protected]> wrote: From: shannon <[email protected]> Subject: NailTech:: Re: Was paraffin wax, now massage after polish To: [email protected] Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 11:24 AM Have you tried a different gel system that has a Paint On White gel? I use Starnails gel and doing P&W is very simple. I do them as thin as I can, just let them level a little bit before curing, they look great and are a thinner more natural feeling enhancement. Michelle Cordes <[email protected]> wrote: I used to use Zoya... I love their colors, but I have had better adhesion with OPI. I also love Tammy Taylor polishes, but their color selection is limited. I cleanse the nails with Scrubfresh before applying the polish, even if they just washed... I love hearing everyone's input though... :) And I have tried all kinds of gels over the years... just don't like doing pink and whites with them! I currently use Brisa. I don't like to use tips for anything (personal preference), and sculpting with the gel is a pain for me for some reason. So, I do clear or pink gel over a natural nail, with the white gel paint. That is about as good as it's gonna get... LOL Always just been an acrylic girl... (hence, the used to educate for TT)... Michelle Cordes --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Sherry Hubbard <[email protected]> wrote: From: Sherry Hubbard <[email protected]> Subject: NailTech:: Re: Was paraffin wax, now massage after polish To: [email protected] Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 10:08 AM The polish does stay on better after the paraffin dip. After the paraffin dip, wipe the nails with a lint free wipe with cleanser. Then use a “sandwich” which Is base coat, polish, base coat, polish, and topcoat. Polish lasts for a long time depending on lifestyle. For those who have trouble getting polish to stay on Natural nails, try Zoya. It is toluene and formaldeyhyde free. Sherry H PS- you can dip the paraffin into a plastic bag with a small Dixie cup and work it around the really dry areas. Then slip into heated mitts (www.starnail.com). The mitts are electric and will keep the paraffin warm much longer. If you massage before the Paraffin dip, the paraffin seals in the moisture. This helps the hands feel softer longer, as well as relieving arthritis pain (although temporarily). You can Do the same procedure for feet. Really helps cold, tired, achy feet. Sherry Hubbard From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Lisa Cianciotti Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 10:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: NailTech:: Re: Was paraffin wax, now massage after polish I tried this method tonight and I got marks from the paraffin in the polish. Maybe if I would have let the nails dry longer, it would have worked. I will try it again and see. Lisa From: Angela R Wingerter <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 10:31:18 PM Subject: NailTech:: Re: Was paraffin wax, now massage after polish That makes sense, the polish would stay on better if it was applied before the parifin. Hmmm?? I have a parifin manicure tomorrow. The only problem is I have never done her before. What if it doesn't work? Angie Wingerter From: Michelle Cordes <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 1:52:18 PM Subject: NailTech:: Re: Was paraffin wax, now massage after polish Hey Melody... Just so everyone knows, LOL, my mani client that the polish lasted 3 weeks on works in the shipyard scheduling welders... computer and papers ALL day. And this is not a... ahem ... delicate sort of woman... ;-) My other clients are 2 nurses, a librarian, a home health assistant, a master gardener... I think you get the point... These ladies just ain't sittin around!!! One of the nurses has found that the polish doesn't chip, but the sanitizer they use on their hands in the critical care unit WEARS OFF the polish. (It is also eating the floor under the dispensers, can you imagine what it does to their skin?!?!) No wonder we all have a job... giggle... Michelle in WA --- On Thu, 1/8/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: NailTech:: Re: Was paraffin wax, now massage after polish To: "NailTech Group" < [email protected] > Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 8:27 AM Dang, all I have to say is: you ladies whose polish lasts up to 2wks on your clients..... Those clients must not do housework or anything....!! I have tried the oil-on-the-nailplate trick to get my polish to last like that...and, maybe I hold my mouth wrong... But it doesn't work for me! I have tried it on several clients and the longevity of the polish wear showed no difference.... I am going to try this method... Wish I knew what I was doing or not doing so that I could get those kind of results! Melody Montgomery Everything Nailz Ink Greenville , NC Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular From: Michelle Cordes Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2009 07:48:40 -0800 (PST) To: < [email protected] > Subject: NailTech:: Was paraffin wax, now massage after polish Hey guys. LOL, I know it seems like it wouldn't work, but I have been doing it for years! I put on my Nailtek, color, and CND Air Dry or Nailtek, french, and Seche Vite. I let it set for about one minute, then I drop on CND Solar Oil and smooth it across the nail with a feather light touch. I scoop a dollop of CND Solar Butter (now it is called Almond Moisturizing Creme or somethin...) and I begin my massage at the elbow on their right arm and work down to the knuckles right above their nail. Then I do the same massage on their left arm to the nails. By the time you do all this (takes about 10-15 minutes if you're doing it right), you can massage the Solar Oil into their nails, adding more oil if you need to because their skin has soaked it up. (BTW, I book an hour for my Spa Manicures and charge $30). When I started doing this about 8 years ago, it was kind of an accident... I had one of those antsy pants clients who got me all flustered. She kinda made me... well... forget... to massage and paraffin! I did her polish and then went "Crap!" So, I did her massage and dipped her in the wax... Lo and behold she didn't nick her polish because it was dry and it stuck like glue!!! I always had problems with polish not staying on for more than 2 days or so, so I switched it up! My clients polish now lasts upwards of 2 weeks, and I have been doing it ever since. Necessity is the mother of invention... :) I do it slightly different now with the CND SpaManicure line... I do the paraffin after the scrub and activator. In fact, I have a weekly mani client who had to skip because of the weather recently. She went 3 weeks... came in for her mani with slightly free-edge-chipped french... after 3 WEEKS! Even I was shocked at that one... Well, greetings from the monsoon everyone... Have a good one... Michelle Cordes Bremerton AND Tacoma , Washington (yeah, I finally found another salon!!!) --- On Thu, 1/8/09, Lisa Cianciotti <[email protected]> wrote: From: Lisa Cianciotti <[email protected]> Subject: NailTech:: Re: Paraffin Wax To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 6:03 AM Yes, how do you massage while polish is drying? Lisa From: shannon <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2009 7:23:30 AM Subject: NailTech:: Re: Paraffin Wax How in the world do you massage the hands after you have polished? I massage the fingers and cuticles along with the hand, wrist, and forearm. Shannon Michelle Cordes <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Lisa. I use paraffin on every manicure. I use Creative's line, and I do the paraffin after the exfoliating scrub and activator... then I have my clients rinse their hands and scrub their nails- this is when I prep and polish- then while the polish is drying I do the hand massage. If I am not using the scrub and activator, I do the paraffin after the massage. Now that I am reading this back, I am almost confusing myself!!! LOL... Email me if you want me to just send you my entire procedures... I have tried lots over the years, and have refined it down to a very specific process for very specific reasons... Happy filing, Michelle Cordes --- On Wed, 1/7/09, Lisa Cianciotti <[email protected]> wrote: From: Lisa Cianciotti <[email protected]> Subject: NailTech:: Paraffin Wax To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 6:45 PM Hi, This question is for anyone out there who uses paraffin as an add on to manicures. At what point in the manicure do you do the paraffin? What if you are doing a scrub also? I am one of those who didn't get proper schooling and was never taught anything about a manicure beyond shaping nails, pushing back cuticles, massage and polish. Lisa Cianciotti Arnold Flip Flop Beauty Shop Coopers Plains , NY [email protected] No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.5/1884 - Release Date: 1/9/2009 8:38 AM --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/NailTech?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
