Michelle someone actually called me wanting to find someone who does
gel in Bremerton.  There isn't anyone that I know of, you could
certainly get all those clients.  I may have a class coming up in
Sequim.  Would you like to join??  I could help you fix what problems
your having ;)

-Jess
LuvNailz

On Feb 11, 10:36 pm, Michelle Cordes <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks ladies for all the replies. I guess that I am just annoyed that for 
> some reason, I cannot master this, and maybe that it what gets a bee all in 
> my bonnet!! I do just fine with my specialty, but not many people it seems do 
> what I do anymore. Clients who move have a hard time finding a tech to do 
> good pink and white acrylic sculpts. My concern is that with more people it 
> seems doing gel, that the heavily military area I am in has people who would 
> get their nails done if they could find someone who did what they had before 
> (gels)... LOL... ya follow me? That I could meet a need somewhere for some 
> folks...
>  
> Oh, I don't know. Maybe I'll just keep fussin' with it and see where it 
> leads. Thanks for everyone's tips... :)
>  
> Michelle Cordes
> Bremerton, WA 
>
> --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Michelle Cordes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: Michelle Cordes <[email protected]>
> Subject: NailTech:: Re: Why gels? And Essie pedi opinions...
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 8:29 AM
>
> Howdy Marsha, Melody, and Shannon...etc... etc... :)
>  Yes, I learned how to do gels in school... right alongside the acrylic and 
> wraps. That was 13 years ago, and since I understand that products change and 
> get better, and new ones come out, I have continued to try to find a gel I 
> can master that doesn't frustrate the cr#p out of me!!! So here is some more 
> info.
>  
> I can easily do tips or natural overlay of clear gel. That is a piece of 
> cake. I can do pink gel and white gel paint, still pretty easy. I find that 
> either the client does great (no lifting or breaking) or they are an ABSOLUTE 
> MESS- no in between. This has made it hard for me to figure out if I have 
> done something wrong or they just can't wear gels- but if it's just some 
> can't wear them- then DAMN lots of people can't!
>  
> My next issue is tips. I don't use tips for my acrylic for a reason. I prefer 
> to sculpt because it is faster for me, there is no glue breakdown, and I feel 
> I get a more flattering shape to the nail. I can't sculpt gel. Just can't. I 
> have tried with every product, gone to classes, watched endless videos and I 
> just can't seem to get it. Haven't had my a-ha moment yet... :)
>  
> And then my third issue is time. I do a full set of pink and white sculpted 
> acrylic in just under an hour, backfill in just under an hour, and my fills 
> take about 45 minutes. From what I have seen, a one color gel fill is also 
> between 45 minutes to an hour, but a full set is at least an hour and a half. 
> I charge $30 for a fill, $38 for a backfill, and $70 for a full set with 
> acrylics... I would have to charge MORE than that because gels are more 
> time...
>  
> So yes, Marsha, I guess I am asking... why should this old dog learn some new 
> tricks? I have always subscribed to the idea that people should find what 
> they are best at and then find the clients who are looking for what they do, 
> otherwise you can get the "jack of all trades, master of none" thing goin' 
> on. But I also don't want to be that nailtech who sits around going "my way 
> is the best, so I'm not learnin anything new"!
>  
> Any input from anyone? :)
> Michelle Cordes
>
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: NailTech:: Re: Why gels? And Essie pedi opinions...
> To: "NailTech Group" <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 4:32 AM
>
> The largest reason why gels are preferred by clients is that they are 
> hypoallergenic and no fumes. Typically zero lifting.... They are not porous 
> like AC so polish doesn't stain them and acetone will not break down the gel 
> like it will AC.
>
> I will note that the majority of the public believes that gel is "better for 
> your nails than AC." What they mean is they think there is less damage to the 
> nail plate.... But I am always quick to inform them that it is the TECHNICIAN 
> that causes damage to nail plates!!! Haha! Except, of course, in the case of 
> "chronics"---- those that chew, rip, tear, and/or pick their nails off!
>
> You newbies will begin to find that most spas and a lot of salons do not want 
> techs to use AC because of the "perfumed aroma" that is released! Giggles... 
> I just tell them it smells like money to me! However they will not let you 
> use AC in their businesses because of that.
>
> So... I would recommend that ANY professional nail artist, specialist, 
> technician-- whatever you dubb yourself-- learn ALL products! AND know the 
> differences, pros & cons of each... It will only make you more marketable!
>
> Melody Montgomery
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device from U.S. Cellular
>
> From: shannon
> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 04:05:15 -0800 (PST)
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: NailTech:: Re: Why gels? And Essie pedi opinions...
>
> I ditto what Marsha said,  they file like butter.  Just easier to work with 
> for me. 
>
> Shannon Arnold
> Flip Flop Beauty Shop
> Coopers Plains, NY
> [email protected]
>
> --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Marsha Rubino <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: Marsha Rubino <[email protected]>
> Subject: NailTech:: Re: Why gels? And Essie pedi opinions...
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 3:28 AM
>
> One reason I like using gels is that they are so easy to file and doing 
> a backfill is a snap. Doing a backfill in acrylic is way too much work. But I 
> am confused by your question, Michelle.....you say you have been using gel 
> since school.......is it you feel you haven't mastered them yet and are you 
> asking....is it worth the effort?  Plus, although they are becoming more 
> widely available, for many years, it was hard for clients to find someone who 
> did gels....at least in my area. I wanted to fill that need.
>  Marsha McDonald Rubino
> GIMME NAILS
> 37 Fifth St. E. Suite 102
> Kalispell, Montana 59901
> [email protected]
>
> From: Michelle Cordes <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:39:54 AM
> Subject: NailTech:: Re: Why gels? And Essie pedi opinions...
>
> oh. and I suppose I should add this...
> I've used gel since nail school. I have used Vibrato, OPI Microbond, IBD 
> (including gel polish), and currently use Brisa. I have used over tips, 
> natural nails, tried to sculpt, builder white, paint on white... I am not new 
> at this... really.... LOL! OK, now let me have it ladies!
>  
> Michelle Cordes
>
> --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Michelle Cordes <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> From: Michelle Cordes <[email protected]>
> Subject: NailTech:: Why gels? And Essie pedi opinions...
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 11:35 PM
>
> Hey ladies. Ok, 2 questions...
>  
> 1.) Has anyone tried the Essie pedicure line? My co-worker just bought an 
> intro kit and I am interested to hear any input y'all have...
>  
> 2.) Can you girls who do gels AND acrylics (or have in the past done both) 
> explain to me why go with gel instead of acrylic? Other than odor, I get that 
> part. But for example, we do lots of acrylic in the salon I work in, so there 
> would be no reason to do gels to keep smell away. Seriously, I just watched 
> the tutorial videos at gelessentialz.com and it looks like lots of work to me 
> compared to sculpting acrylic!!! LOL... somebody... anybody... help me 
> understand!!! :)
>  
> I hear y'all talk about gels, and it fascinates me, but I just can't figure 
> out why I would want to master them personally! Sell me, girls!!!
>  
> Michelle Cordes
> Washington (State), where it is snowing. again. so all my clients can cancel. 
> again. sissies. :)
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