I have to chime in here..I remember Doug Schoon saying, "you could place a nail clipping in primer (regular acid primer) and come back 2 months later and the measurements will be exactly the same" Now I have always thought of Doug as the Nail God.... so IS that a true statement or not? I am sure it is in his book somewhere also. I know that non-acid primers work just as well NOW (not when they first came out) as acid ones so that in itself should be why we use them. I just want to know if that statement above is true or not...
Pati 'Good friends are like stars... You don't always see them, But you know they are always there. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, May 12, 2010 9:46 am Subject: NailTech:: Primer talk... bject: primer opinions....Rhonda, I completely understand what you are saying. I DID have a hard time removing the SOG from the one finger that was demo'd to me in Chicago. It was primed with the primer pen. That IS acid primer.As for the verbiage on the bonders/primer.... Rox has a new client coming to her salon. She has it in HER mind that the PRIMER was the cause of damage. Rox needs to get her in her chair and gently let her know that it was the tech who did the damage followed by the wrong products. If the old type primer does do damage, then clients who patronize chop shops are having more damage done to them than they realize. Hence, this is where clients feel that the PRODUCT did the damage and not the person working on their nails. Educating the client will likely not be able to be done in one visit. That would be way too much information overload to the client. She already has it in her mind that the PRIMER was doing the damage. This has to be a slow process to get her to understand WHAT was done and learn what WILL be done from here on out by a reputable tech. Rox can be professional about it and not say anything negative about what was done or the products used at this client's first appointment. Rox needs to build up this woman's trust in what she is doing to her nails and the products she is using. To me, IMHO, that is what needs to be done at the first appointment. Over time, Rox can let her know that the bonder is doing the same thing, but is NOT harmful to her or her nails. I would never expect the client to absorb and retain all this information in one visit. Her main objective this time is to NOT have primer used and to walk out with beautiful nails. I vote to let her get this and slowly give her more information. What harm is it to NOT use "primer" instead of "bonder?" These newer bonders do not even use the term primer on their labels. They are distancing themselves from the primer terminology. Why? Because it is NOT a primer in the OLD sense. Does not etch or harm the nails, right?I see no harm in telling the client that that step is a bonder and it works similar to a double faced tape to keep the product to the nail and the nail to the product. I wonder how many chop shops have actually explained this step to their customers. I wonder how many nss can explain this--the upscale American owned and operated nss in my area use TT and CND. The chop shops use MMA. Now on to the SOG and "bonding" the free edge. I have been using SOG since November and never had the pulling away from the nails. I recently started doing it because my peers suggested it. It is not killing me to do it. Do I know if it is better? No, since like I said, I had no problems before. But I am taking your word for it!!I do not lie to my clients. I give them the information they need to know at the level they will understand. I cannot give them too much, because they will not comprehend it all at one time. The only difference is terminology. I use Something Wonderful, YN Protein Bond and Entity's NuBond. Primer and bonder are not the same thing. Like you said, primer etches and the bonder does not. Then it is NOT the same. So why use the same wording? The end result is the same, but the product is different. I guess it is all how one looks at it. --ROX-- sorry for talking about you as if you were not in the room!!! LOL buenos dias,Gotta' run, Lynnette http://www.facebook.com/nailtech Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en.
