You're right, of course.It's frustrating to know that we keep laws and they break them and get away with it, but that's just the way it is. Our best offense is to educate our clients and make them aware of what is going on, and how they may be affected. Like it or not, everything you said is absolutely right on target.
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Diana Bonn <[email protected]> wrote: > Ah, some are not going to like this post.....but the reality is that the > states do not have the money to test for MMA. Even though we "know" and > they "know" they use it, if it went to court, the defense attorney would > say, prove it. > > We all worked hard getting MMA banned in states. EVERYONE on this list > went for it, and it worked!!! But what we didn't know then and know now, is > the states couldn't prove this. Back in those days OPI had a kit that > tested for MMA. The problem was that the tests didn't work. Had negative > positive's. Had positive negative's. The last time I heard a test for MMA > would be over 400 dollars. Not going to happen. > > How to inform your clients? Go for the damaged nails!!! Not the chemical. > Go for the sanitation. Show them pictures of the damaged nails from over > filing. Which is from the mMa. The public will understand the damaged nails > not a chemical they can't see. > > They will understand washing their hands. They will understand PAIN. They > will understand BLOOD. They will understand infections. What they don't > get is a chemical that dentist's use in teeth. If it's okay for my mouth, > why not my nails? (been there done that, tired of explaining) > > I know you ALL are frustrated with the boards, I understand, hell I get > frustrated. But our hands our tied by the laws, attorneys, legislature and > budgets. We get complaints, we do our best to follow thru, but then again > if there is no proof we can do nothing. If the consumer doesn't follow > thru, we can't do anything. And if a doctor won't say the damage happened > at a certain salon, that is hard also. > > And don't even get me started of a cash transaction!!!!!!!!! If the > consumer doesn't have a receipt, how can the consumer prove that she was at > this salon. > > There are ways we can get around these things, but very hard. Also, hard > for an inspector to walk in and if they don't see something happening, they > can't very well stop it or write them up. They can see sanitation. they > can't see the client being cut if it doesn't happen in front of them. That > can't see the infection that pops up later. They can only see what is in > front of them. That is where the consumer complaints SHOULD come in. > > And the laws are in place for a reason. To protect us also. Let's say a > client is mad at you because of your sister-in-law is dating your 2nd > cousin. she notifies State Board that she got an infection from you. Does > the State automatically assume that she is correct and doesn't ask her for > pics, receipt and doctors receipts? > > And you are saying, hey wait a minute this woman never was at my table, > this is personal!!!!!! So the same laws that we get mad about because we > "know" they did it, are the same laws that protect those that we "know" > didn't do it. > > For every 100 horror stories you all have about how boards don't work, I > have hundreds of stories of how the boards do work. We just can't get to > all of them. JMHO diana from indiana > > > > > > At 07:12 PM 9/27/2010, you wrote: > >> good luck. I don't understand that either. Our inspector always says he >> can smell it as soon as he walks into a place, but that's even more reason >> to wonder why they all still use it! I have them come in all the time with >> that junk on, and as you say, it's impossible to get off. Even though I do >> try to educate people on their practices, I think a lot of them don't really >> take it too seriously, and I'm afraid they think I'm just talking about my >> "competition". I try to just explain in a factual way, but while some of >> them are happy for the information and never want to go near one of those >> places again, I can see some others either not caring at all, or looking at >> me like I'm just crazy. And does CND even make Solar Nails anymore? Or "soda >> nails" as they call it? I had a woman in a couple of weeks ago that swore up >> and down they were using the "real" Solar nails and had a big jar of acrylic >> powder with the brand name "Solar Nails" written across it. Like they >> couldn't refill that jar with whatever they wanted? >> It is very discouraging to me, because I know if I came in and tried to do >> nails or skin without a license or using illegal products or methods, I >> would be fined, run out of town or worse. But these people get away with it >> all day long every day. Nothing ever seems to happen to them. >> >> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Lauren Dodson <<mailto: >> [email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >> A couple of weeks ago I had a client on my book that wanted her nails >> soaked off then Shellac applied. She was new to town and I had never met >> her or seen her nails. After soaking and filing for over an hour, I knew >> this stuff was not coming off. I explained MMA and all that goes with that. >> I sanded her nails until about 90% of the crap was off. I then did Gelish >> using foundation. She came back the next day when I was off and had another >> tech redo her, saying some of the Gelish was chipping. That tech soaked her >> again and still had trouble getting the MMA off. The woman said that when I >> did her nails I seemed to be in a hurry and just gave up. I had another >> client coming in so I had to get her done. She called back again a couple >> of days later with trouble with her nails again. My bottom line is that I >> will no longer be removing (or trying to) MMA. I sent a letter to my state >> board asking why MMA was still being used since it is banned in Tennessee. I >> got back a stupid reply saying it was banned and that the salons are >> inspected every year.Duh! I know some of you have gone through the whole >> banning MMA thing in your area. Any ideas about what I should do? If >> possible will you all send me your worst MMA pictures so I can send them >> into state board? My e-mail address is <mailto:[email protected] >> >[email protected]. I think I will just keep bugging them until >> something happens. 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