Angie, What if you were to try your other products on her to see if anything changes before you sell your Shellac, or even see if one of the clients using the other products without dry spots would let you put Shellac on them. I'm wishing you the best my friend!!!! Hugs~ Della In a message dated 9/30/2010 9:26:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
Thanks Laura, I feel I am gentle. I do use a metal cuticle pusher but the product comes off so easy. I will try a wooden one and see if that helps. Since Shellac is part polish I would think acetone would soak through the layers and reach the nail pretty quick. The others are gel and it isn't as easy for the acetone to soak through. Gelish and Eco take more effort to push off and I have to buff off the last little bit. Just trying to figure out the difference here. I wonder if Shellac would come off in 5 min? I haven't tried to take it off sooner then 10. Angie Wingerter ____________________________________ From: Laura Merzetti <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 8:10:12 AM Subject: RE: NailTech:: dry nails/Shellac I sent a note to Doug Schoon last week – there was a thread on the board about the same subject. I’ve been using Shellac and haven’t been noticing the white spots (yet) but wanted his take on the problem in case I started to experience it with my clients. His response: Hi Laura, My guess is that this is caused by improper removal. If the white spots are due to surface roughness, that is likely to be the reason. Improper removal roughens the surface and makes it appear whitish. Proper removal is gentle removal and the process should cause no damage if done correctly. Let them know that forcing the product from the nail is the mostly likely reason for damage. Please feel free to share this info. Doug Laura Merzetti From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of holly cliffe Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 9:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: NailTech:: dry nails/Shellac I have also noticed this on most of my shellac clients and I was thinking about posting about it and forgot. Thanks for bringing this up.....hopefully we'll get some insights. Holly Cliffe Vancouver, BC On 29-Sep-10, at 6:53 PM, Angela R Wingerter wrote: I have a client that has been wearing Shellac for 4 weeks now. She comes in every two weeks, so today was her third time getting Shellac. I have been doing the cotton and foil method. I have been putting cuticle oil on her nails right after I push the product off. Her nails are getting the dry spots like you guys have talked about before. I have another client that has been getting the Gelish and the Eco about the same amount of time and her nails doesn't seem to be drying out. Has anyone else seen this with Shellac vs the others or could it be that the client with the dry nails are just prone to dryness? I am not happy with what I am seeing. If it is going to do this to the nails they might as well wear gels and have all the extra strength. And if it is Shellac that is doing it, then I will be selling my stock. Anyone interested? Angie Wingerter ____________________________________ From: "[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) " <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Sent: Wed, September 29, 2010 8:26:25 PM Subject: Re: NailTech:: Gelish: Your Vote For Removal Method*Also* Foundation Base App... Yes there is big hope... I have been soaking off the old fashioned way since day one . I use one of the little soak off trays from Nailite with a wet cotton balls in it. 1>. bufff shine off first hand and place in tray and make sure cotton is against nail 2> file and shape next hand and buff off shine. 3> back to first hand, remove one finger at a time and push off product with cuticle stick 4>put second hand in to soak 5> file and shape, lightly buff first hand, scrub fresh <or what ever cleanser you use> 6< remove second hand one finger at a time push off product, and finish buff and cleanse. 7> base coat, color , top, coat, remove dispersion layer 8>sugar scrub hand and forarm, 9>send to wash 10> nice lotion massage All done and ready to leave in about 45 min. Thrilled to death that ther is no reason not to go after those always lost keys in the bottom of their bag,.. We havent had any take more than 10 min to soak off. The time it took that long was a couple nails that had an issue and were buffed and retop coated. so there was more on them. The frenchs soak off so fast that I am still amazed, I sill double check myself that I didnt miss something.. This stuff is so GREAT. I am using ECO, Shellac, Gelish, and a few of IBD soak off gels. IBD has one in a bottle comming but their pots of soak off are fine as long as you use the base and top from the new lines... I really totally agree with Rhonda though this IS and atrificial service so hide the files, and electreic files it is all about preception. Happy Happy nail days Dawn [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Lancaster,PA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Sent: Wed, Sep 29, 2010 8:17 pm Subject: Re: NailTech:: Gelish: Your Vote For Removal Method*Also* Foundation Base App... Thank you Maggie!!! I am going to try the old fashioned way and see what happens. Yipeee..there is hope!!! And thank you everyone who has replied with your help and suggestions!!! If anyone else has different techniques,pretty please share them : ) Della In a message dated 9/29/2010 5:15:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) writes: I would just as soon drill it off, but let's face it-- most of the clients who are in love with these products would prefer to avoid any part of the process that makes them think it's a "fake nail product," they'd rather have it soaked off. I have been using the individually wrapped (which makes me think of one of the old Foster Farms chickens commercials, which makes me laugh) -- acetone soaked cotton ball, wrapped in foil-- method. I find doing this means letting them soak for 15 minutes, then scraping the product off with a cuticle pusher. It works well enough. BUT one of my clients has taken to soaking it off herself at home the night before her appointments and SHE made the discovery that if you soak it the old fashioned way-- with your fingertips in a bowl of acetone, it slides right off in 10 minutes or less! So that's the way we're doing it now. Just make sure you buff the shine off the top coat first. Maggie Franklin: Owner & Artist, _The Art of Nailz_ (http://artofnailz.info/) , Visalia CA "Visionary rebel dreamer; obviously way ahead of my time." _Maggie Rants [and rav...@nails Magazine _ (http://blogs.nailsmag.com/maggie/) _Facebook_ (http://www.facebook.com/onykophile) --- On Wed, 9/29/10, [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > wrote: From: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) <[email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) > Subject: NailTech:: Gelish: Your Vote For Removal Method*Also* Foundation Base Application For Fill To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Date: Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 5:19 AM Hello Friends, I have a client coming in tomorrow with Gelish on. I would appreciate a vote of which you all prefer as far as buffing/filing the product off to apply new, or the soak off method? Also how much time it takes you for both methods. I soaked 3 of mine off yesterday with a timer and I am disappointed that it is not quicker to remove. I filled half the Gelish off and it took 15 minutes to remove plus buffing to finish : ( I am grimacing at the length of time this might take tomorrow : ( Also, do you apply foundation base over the entire nail for a fill, or just the growth area. Thanks A Million! Della West Side Indianapolis Brownsburg Area -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) . 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