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--Boundary_(ID_hgENUj67bJBQ8anVPywa0A) Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Veronica, eco So Quick does not require primer. Primer use is not what is causing the lifting or peeling or chipping. These things are caused from your application being too thick. The primer pen is an acid primer. Primer is ONLY recommended for those who have nails that are not in the best shape -- peeling or thin for instance. When using primer on any UV Gel polish it should ONLY be used on the free edge, not the entire nail plate. Please take a few minutes and read through the material on the following links, I really think it will help you. <http://www.manicuresthatlast.com/catalog/assorted-application-thoughts-a-14.html>Assorted Application Thoughts Assorted Application Thoughts, tip and tricks using eco So Quick soak off UV Gel Polish <http://www.manicuresthatlast.com/catalog/color-application-a-2.html>Color Application eco So Quick UV Gel Polish color application instructions Lorraine, webgirl www.ManicuresThatLast.com <<-- Eco So Quick UV Gel Polish & CinaPro Nail Art www.ScentualSpaProducts.com <<--Enhance the Spa Experience Free Shipping on all orders over $75 At 07:19 PM 3/18/2011, you wrote: >Thank you guys, really, all this info is really helping, I'm not >sure if it is a acid primer. It's the Primer Pen that came in the >Eco kit. What if it is an acid Primer? would that make it lift? I am >applying it to the whole nail. Thank you again. > > > > > > >---------- >Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:35:05 -0500 >From: [email protected] >Subject: Re: NailTech:: please help >To: [email protected] > >Great info Rhonda... One other thing I will mention is that most >techs who are proficent at traditional hard gel have a little >trouble when first using UV Gel polishes. You need to think more >"polish" application as opposed to "gel" application. > >The Metal Mixing tool can be found at: ><http://www.manicuresthatlast.com/catalog/metal-mixing-tool-p-322.html>http://www.manicuresthatlast.com/catalog/metal-mixing-tool-p-322.html > > > >Lorraine, webgirl > ><http://www.manicuresthatlast.com?/>www.ManicuresThatLast.com <<-- >Eco So Quick UV Gel Polish & CinaPro Nail Art ><http://www.scentualspaproducts.com?/>www.ScentualSpaProducts.com ><<--Enhance the Spa Experience >Free Shipping on all orders over $75 > > >At 07:05 AM 3/12/2011, you wrote: >Veronica, if you are using a primer pen, it is an acid primer. When >people say to use it only at the free edge, they are talking about >using a non-acid primer, like YN Protein Bond that Patti >suggested. We suggest that you only apply it to the free edge >because that is usually where you get separation, if you apply to >the entire nail, it will never soak off, you have to file off. > >I would guess, you are either applying too thick and not realizing >it or you are getting it on the skin. One of my seasoned techs in >the salon "THOUGHT" she was applying it thin, but I did one of her >client's this week and all I can say is she uses three times more >than I do. Thin, thin, thin and when you think it's thin, make it >thinner. Also, we only do two coats of color. If you are doing 3 >or 4, with base and top, that's a lot of layers. That thickness >alone will make it lift and peel. If you are not getting good color >coverage with 2 coats, I really don't think you are stirring your >gel enough. ManicuresThatLast sells an awesome spatula that really >gets a good stir from the bottom all the way up! > >Hope this helps! > >R > >On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Pati ><<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >try using young nails protein bond... will make removal slightly >harder but they stay ON! > >Pati >'Good friends are like stars... >You don't always see them, But you know they are always there. >-----Original Message----- >From: Veronica Mora ><<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] > >To: nailtech <<mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> >Sent: Fri, Mar 11, 2011 5:02 pm >Subject: RE: NailTech:: please help >Everything i use is ECO or Star Nails. I dont buff the shine, I file >with 180 file. I file everywhere on the nail plate. They lift by >cuticle and the side walls. I will try no primer tonight and let you >know how that works tomorrow. I usually lif the next day. > > >---------- >Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:08:49 -0800 >From: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >Subject: Re: NailTech:: please help >To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >I don't use primer and it doesn't lift. Are you lightly buffing the >shine off the top of the nails and around the cuticle area? Where do >they start to lift? I think you only have to cure the base for 30 >seconds. I usually do one minute becuase I don't have a 30 second >option on my lamp. Lorraine can you over cure the gels? What is the >clear that you are using? I have used the clear that came with the >kit and it worked but I usually use Gelish top it off with the Eco. > >Angie > > >From: Veronica Mora ><<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] > >To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 4:58:27 PM >Subject: RE: NailTech:: please help >Here are my steps: >1. take off polish and push cuticles back >2. file nails >3. brush off dust and apply dehydrator >4. apply primer pen >5.apply THIN layer of base (cure 2 mins) >6. apply eco's thick clear and again i apply it thin. >I put on about 3 or 4 layers and cure in 2 minutes each. >what am i doing wrong? > > >---------- >Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:32:00 -0800 >From: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >Subject: Re: NailTech:: please help >To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >Hi Veronica, > What is your prep? Are you stirring the gel really well? Are > you applying each coat thinly? How are you applying the base > coat? The base coat works best when you use very little and it is > "scrubbed" into the nail. > >Lisa Cianciotti >Simply Polished Studio for Nails >Mount Pleasant, PA > > > > >From: Veronica Mora ><<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] > >To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 5:18:13 PM >Subject: RE: NailTech:: please help >I am having problems having my eco gels stay on. I lift and my >clients either lift or pop off with in days. I need help. i dont >know if its something that im doing or if its the gels. >Please help!!!! >Veronica >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "NailTech" group. >To post to this group, send email to ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] . >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]. > > >For more options, visit this group at ><http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en>http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "NailTech" group. >To post to this group, send email to ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] . >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]. > > >For more options, visit this group at ><http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en>http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "NailTech" group. >To post to this group, send email to ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] . >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]. > > >For more options, visit this group at ><http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en>http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "NailTech" group. >To post to this group, send email to ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] . >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]. > > >For more options, visit this group at ><http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en>http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "NailTech" group. >To post to this group, send email to ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] . >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]. > > >For more options, visit this group at ><http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en>http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "NailTech" group. >To post to this group, send email to ><mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] . >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to ><mailto:nailtech%[email protected]>[email protected]. > > >For more options, visit this group at ><http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en>http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "NailTech" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit this group at ><http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en>http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > > >Lorraine, webgirl > ><http://www.manicuresthatlast.com/>www.ManicuresThatLast.com <<-- >Eco So Quick UV Gel Polish & CinaPro Nail Art ><http://www.scentualspaproducts.com/>www.ScentualSpaProducts.com ><<--Enhance the Spa Experience >Free Shipping on all orders over $75 > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "NailTech" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >Groups "NailTech" group. >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >[email protected]. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. Lorraine, webgirl www.ManicuresThatLast.com <<-- Eco So Quick UV Gel Polish & CinaPro Nail Art www.ScentualSpaProducts.com <<--Enhance the Spa Experience Free Shipping on all orders over $75 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=en. --Boundary_(ID_hgENUj67bJBQ8anVPywa0A) Content-type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable <html> <body> <font size=3D3>Veronica, eco So Quick does not require primer. Primer use is not what is causing the lifting or peeling or chipping. These things are caused from your application being too thick. The primer pen is an acid primer. Primer is ONLY recommended for those who have nails that are not in the best shape -- peeling or thin for instance. When using primer on any UV Gel polish it should ONLY be used on the free edge, not the entire nail plate.<br><br> Please take a few minutes and read through the material on the following links, I really think it will help you.<br><br> <b> <a href=3D"http://www.manicuresthatlast.com/catalog/assorted-application-th= oughts-a-14.html"> Assorted Application Thoughts</a></b> <br> Assorted Application Thoughts, tip and tricks using eco So Quick soak off UV Gel Polish<br><br> <b> <a href=3D"http://www.manicuresthatlast.com/catalog/color-application-a-2.h= tml"> Color Application</a></b> <br> eco So Quick UV Gel Polish color application instructions<br><br> Lorraine, webgirl<br><br> <a href=3D"http://www.manicuresthatlast.com=A0/"; eudora=3D"autourl"> www.ManicuresThatLast.com </a> <<-- Eco So Quick UV Gel Polish & CinaPro Nail Art<br> <a href=3D"http://www.scentualspaproducts.com=A0/"; eudora=3D"autourl"> www.ScentualSpaProducts.com </a> <<--Enhance the Spa Experience<br> Free Shipping on all orders over $75 <br><br> <br> At 07:19 PM 3/18/2011, you wrote:<br> </font><blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite=3D""> <font face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D4 color=3D"#1F497D">Thank you guys, rea= lly, all this info is really helping, I'm not sure if it is a acid primer. It's the Primer Pen that came in the Eco kit. What if it is an acid Primer? would that make it lift? I am applying it to the whole nail. Thank you again.</font><font size=3D3><br><br> <br><br> <br><br> <hr> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2011 11:35:05 -0500<br> From: [email protected]<br> Subject: Re: NailTech:: please help<br> To: [email protected]<br><br> Great info Rhonda... One other thing I will mention is that most techs who are proficent at traditional hard gel have a little trouble when first using UV Gel polishes. You need to think more "polish" application as opposed to "gel" application.<br><br> The Metal Mixing tool can be found at:<br> <a href=3D"http://www.manicuresthatlast.com/catalog/metal-mixing-tool-p-322= .html"> http://www.manicuresthatlast.com/catalog/metal-mixing-tool-p-322.html</a> <br><br> Lorraine, webgirl<br><br> <a href=3D"http://www.manicuresthatlast.com?/";>www.ManicuresThatLast.com </a><<-- Eco So Quick UV Gel Polish & CinaPro Nail Art<br> <a href=3D"http://www.scentualspaproducts.com?/";> www.ScentualSpaProducts.com </a><<--Enhance the Spa Experience<br> Free Shipping on all orders over $75 <br><br> <br> At 07:05 AM 3/12/2011, you wrote:<br> </font> <dl> <dd>Veronica, if you are using a primer pen, it is an acid primer. When people say to use it only at the free edge, they are talking about using a non-acid primer, like YN Protein Bond that Patti suggested. We suggest that you only apply it to the free edge because that is usually where you get separation, if you apply to the entire nail, it will never soak off, you have to file off.<br> <dd> <br> <dd>I would guess, you are either applying too thick and not realizing it or you are getting it on the skin. One of my seasoned techs in the salon "THOUGHT" she was applying it thin, but I did one of her client's this week and all I can say is she uses three times more than I do. Thin, thin, thin and when you think it's thin, make it thinner. Also, we only do two coats of color. If you are doing 3 or 4, with base and top, that's a lot of layers. That thickness alone will make it lift and peel. If you are not getting good color coverage with 2 coats, I really don't think you are stirring your gel enough. ManicuresThatLast sells an awesome spatula that really gets a good stir from the bottom all the way up!<br> <dd> <br> <dd>Hope this helps!<br> <dd> <br> <dd>R<br><br> <dd>On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Pati <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>> wrote: <dl> <dd><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3>try using young nails protein bond... will make removal slightly harder but they stay ON!<br><br> </font> <dd><font face=3D"arial" size=3D2>Pati <br> <dd>'Good friends are like stars...=20 <dd>You don't always see them, But you know they are always there.</font><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3><br> <dd>-----Original Message----- <dd>From: Veronica Mora <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a> > <dd>To: nailtech <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";> [email protected]</a>> <dd>Sent: Fri, Mar 11, 2011 5:02 pm <dd>Subject: RE: NailTech:: please help<br> <dd>Everything i use is ECO or Star Nails. I dont buff the shine, I file with 180 file. I file everywhere on the nail plate. They lift by cuticle and the side walls. I will try no primer tonight and let you know how that works tomorrow. I usually lif the next day. <br><br> <hr> <dd>Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 18:08:49 -0800 <dd>From: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a> <dd>Subject: Re: NailTech:: please help <dd>To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a> <br> <dd>I don't use primer and it doesn't lift. Are you lightly buffing the shine off the top of the nails and around the cuticle area? Where do they start to lift? I think you only have to cure the base for 30 seconds. I usually do one minute becuase I don't have a 30 second option on my lamp. Lorraine can you over cure the gels? What is the clear that you are using? I have used the clear that came with the kit and it worked but I usually use Gelish top it off with the Eco. <dd> </font> <dd><font face=3D"comic sans ms" size=3D3 color=3D"#BF00BF">Angie </font><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3><br> <br><br> </font> <dd><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D2>From: Veronica Mora <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a> > <dd>To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>= =20 <dd>Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 4:58:27 PM <dd>Subject: RE: NailTech:: please help</font><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3> <dd>Here are my steps: <dd>1. take off polish and push cuticles back <dd>2. file nails <dd>3. brush off dust and apply dehydrator <dd>4. apply primer pen <dd>5.apply THIN layer of base (cure 2 mins) <dd>6. apply eco's thick clear and again i apply it thin. <dd>I put on about 3 or 4 layers and cure in 2 minutes each.<br> <dd>what am i doing wrong?<br><br> <hr> <dd>Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 14:32:00 -0800 <dd>From: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a> <dd>Subject: Re: NailTech:: please help <dd>To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a> <br> <dd>Hi Veronica, <dd> What is your prep? Are you stirring the gel really well? Are you applying each coat thinly? How are you applying the base coat? The base coat works best when you use very little and it is "scrubbed" into the nail. =20 <dd> </font> <dd><font face=3D"verdana" size=3D3>Lisa Cianciotti</font><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3></font> <dd><font face=3D"bookman old style" size=3D3 color=3D"#007F7F">Simply Poli= shed Studio for Nails</font><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3></font> <dd><font face=3D"verdana" size=3D2>Mount Pleasant, PA</font><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3> <dd> <br> <br> <br><br> </font> <dd><font face=3D"Tahoma" size=3D2>From: Veronica Mora <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a> > <dd>To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a>= =20 <dd>Sent: Fri, March 11, 2011 5:18:13 PM <dd>Subject: RE: NailTech:: please help</font><font face=3D"Comic Sans MS" size=3D3> <dd>I am having problems having my eco gels stay on. I lift and my clients either lift or pop off with in days. I need help. i dont know if its something that im doing or if its the gels.<br> <dd>Please help!!!! <dd>Veronica<br> <dd>--=20 <dd>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. <dd>To post to this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a> . <dd>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";> [email protected]</a>. <dd>For more options, visit this group at <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=3Den";> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=3Den</a>.<br> <br> <dd>--=20 <dd>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. <dd>To post to this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a> . <dd>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";> [email protected]</a>. <dd>For more options, visit this group at <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=3Den";> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=3Den</a>.<br> <dd>--=20 <dd>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. <dd>To post to this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a> . <dd>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";> [email protected]</a>. <dd>For more options, visit this group at <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=3Den";> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=3Den</a>.<br> <dd>--=20 <dd>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. <dd>To post to this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a> . <dd>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";> [email protected]</a>. <dd>For more options, visit this group at <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=3Den";> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=3Den</a>. <dd>--=20 <dd>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. <dd>To post to this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a> . <dd>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";> [email protected]</a>. <dd>For more options, visit this group at <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=3Den";> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=3Den</a>.</font> <dd>--=20 <dd>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group. <dd>To post to this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]";>[email protected]</a> . <dd>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to <a href=3D"mailto:nailtech%[email protected]";> [email protected]</a>. <dd>For more options, visit this group at <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=3Den";> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=3Den</a>.<br><br> </dl><br> <dd>-- <br> <dd>You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group.<br> <dd>To post to this group, send email to [email protected].<br> <dd>To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected].<br> <dd>For more options, visit this group at <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=3Den";> http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=3Den</a>.<br><br> </dl><br> Lorraine, webgirl<br><br> <a href=3D"http://www.manicuresthatlast.com/";>www.ManicuresThatLast.com</a> <<-- Eco So Quick UV Gel Polish & CinaPro Nail Art<br> <a href=3D"http://www.scentualspaproducts.com/";> www.ScentualSpaProducts.com</a> <<--Enhance the Spa Experience<br> Free Shipping on all orders over $75 <br><br> -- <br> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "NailTech" group.<br> To post to this group, send email to [email protected].<br> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected].<br> For more options, visit this group at <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/nailtech?hl=3Den"; 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